Spike: Or maybe Captain Forehead was feeling a little less special. Didn't like me crashing his exclusive club, another vampire with a soul in the world. Angel: You're not in the world, Casper.

'Just Rewards (2)'


Spike's Bitches 27: I'm Embarrassed for Our Kind.  

[NAFDA] Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risque (and frisque), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.


Topic!Cindy - Dec 02, 2005 6:14:51 am PST #7550 of 10003
What is even happening?

You might have killed The Inside, Cashmere. Or maybe not. Maybe I should have hated it out loud. Maybe then it would have remained on.


Laura - Dec 02, 2005 6:19:47 am PST #7551 of 10003
Our wings are not tired.

The first half of S1 of VM would not have caused me to stick around. I'm glad I did. This season is more of a swirl of confusion partially because of ingesting the show one episode a week rather than marathon viewing.

I think I would watch all television series in DVD format after the season is over if it weren't for the discussion here. It satisfies the instant gratification need better.


Topic!Cindy - Dec 02, 2005 6:26:44 am PST #7552 of 10003
What is even happening?

I don't get the VM-oost at all. I watched the first few eps, disliked Veronica herself intensely,
Was it just her personality, or was it the sort ethical issues about private investigation (or what, if you know)? Lately, I've stumbled across people talking about the Veronica character in a few places, and mentioning how she really crosses lines. Swallowing the whole season in essentially one gulp, I had never stopped to consider how much of what she does is such an intrusion. The first time it pinged me was in season 1, where she gets a hold of Duncan's medical records (I know we're NAFDA here, but I don't want to spoil any of the people who are thinking about checking it out via DVD, and are starting with S1).

stopped watching, and that was that. (And honestly, the more swooning "YOU MUST WATCH THIS SHOW" posts I see on the internet, the less likely I am ever to give it another chance. Telling me it's going to take 22 hours before I fall in love? Nuh and uh. Not worth my time.)

I can't ever see myself trying to fall in love with a TV show, again. In the beginning, I made myself watch Angel. It didn't appeal to me on its own merits, at all. But I did eventually fall for it on its own merits. I talked myself into thinking I loved Firefly. I did think I loved it for a long time. When it was canceled I was as bitter as if I had loved it, but I know now I didn't--not really.

I truly loved Wonderfalls. I would have loved Wonderfalls, even if I'd never made the Minear connection. I truly loved Buffy. I truly loved Freaks and Geeks. I truly loved Joan of Arcadia. I truly love VM, but it completely surprised me.


erikaj - Dec 02, 2005 6:27:51 am PST #7553 of 10003
Always Anti-fascist!

Jessica, then, would probably not be a "Wire" fan. It is an investment, my new show, but "Once you in it, you in it." But there were many of my first eps where it was entirely possible to read at the same time. Now, of course, I know not to do that. My fake husband will smite me later with the fact that I Missed Stuff. Also, my corner slang is the bomb these days. Drives my mama just off the hook, too. I don't lose track of much anymore, though. And I like it...that shit is tight.


Jessica - Dec 02, 2005 6:30:01 am PST #7554 of 10003
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Was it just her personality, or was it the sort ethical issues about private investigation (or what, if you know)?

Mostly her personality -- I didn't keep watching long enough to really get into the ethics issues that came up. The way the voiceover narration was written just made me itch.


Jessica - Dec 02, 2005 6:31:10 am PST #7555 of 10003
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Jessica, then, would probably not be a "Wire" fan. It is an investment, my new show, but "Once you in it, you in it."

I'd still like to try it, even so -- I think it's more up my alley than VM to begin with.


§ ita § - Dec 02, 2005 6:32:10 am PST #7556 of 10003
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Veronica continues to be unlikeable. She's judgmental, narrow minded and rude. I kinda watch around her.


Nora Deirdre - Dec 02, 2005 6:32:57 am PST #7557 of 10003
I’m responsible for my own happiness? I can’t even be responsible for my own breakfast! (Bojack Horseman)

I thought the VMVO was kind of @@ the first episode, but I tried to give some slack because, pilot, thus exposition-y. I think it was used with more restraint and to often good uses as the season went along though.

But personality clash is personality clash.


Jars - Dec 02, 2005 6:37:46 am PST #7558 of 10003

I watched the first season of The Wire a few weeks back in a two day marathon, and really enjoyed. No idea when or where I might have access to the later seasons though.

She's judgmental, narrow minded and rude.

And she so reminds me of many of my friends. If they were less lazy, they too could snoop for a living!


erikaj - Dec 02, 2005 6:39:12 am PST #7559 of 10003
Always Anti-fascist!

Cool. If you start with Season One you'll learn why I've been calling Bush Snot POTUS since the election. Or sometimes Shrub Boogie. Although that Snot ain't been got. Although his crew'll be starting to learn to jail soon. (It's kinda funny, going from Wee-bey, Omar, and Poot to W., Brownie, and Turd Blossom) Not a surprise if you watch other HBO, but I'm now desensitized to most profanities.