Oh, and Ellie is very beautiful (which we all knew), and her parents clean up pretty nicely, too!
Travers: Perhaps you'll favor us with a demonstration while we're here. Buffy: You mean, like, right now? 'Cause, already had my recommended daily dose of fights tonight.
'Potential'
Spike's Bitches 27: I'm Embarrassed for Our Kind.
[NAFDA] Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risque (and frisque), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.
P.M. Marc - Dec 02, 2005 5:23:47 am PST #7537 of 10003
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear
JZ - Dec 02, 2005 5:30:12 am PST #7538 of 10003
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.
Hec and I kind of watched VM last year, and liked it well enough but weren't totally grabbed; we finally let it drop off the TiVo the same exact week of the episode that apparently changed everything, cranked it all up a good five or six notches, and made it crucial viewing. And ever since then, we've been telling each other that we really need to get S1 on DVD and catch up and start watching again, but it hasn't happened yet.
I finally said to hell with it and started watching bits and pieces of S2 without catching up; it hasn't grabbed me hard yet, but I'm liking it. And I can wait for the grabbage, which is never fast with me -- even with My So-Called Life, my show-obsession gold standard, I saw the first episode on Sassy's recommendation, went "meh," and didn't bother again until something like Life of Brian (the World Happiness Dance episode, not the Python thing, which AFAIK has nothing to do with MSCL). With Buffy, I saw Dopplegangland and then didn't look at it again for at least another year. VM isn't catching me hard just yet, but that's okay. There's time yet.
Except for the whole Cindy watching=DOOOOOMED thing, but I'll chance it.
vw bug - Dec 02, 2005 5:34:42 am PST #7539 of 10003
Mostly lurking...
Phew! My Independent Study professor approved my incomplete. I have through January to finish my project. I am so relieved!
sj - Dec 02, 2005 5:35:21 am PST #7540 of 10003
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."
That's good news, vw. Yay!
Fred Pete - Dec 02, 2005 5:41:04 am PST #7541 of 10003
Ann, that's a ferret.
Good news, vw!
erikaj - Dec 02, 2005 5:42:45 am PST #7542 of 10003
Always Anti-fascist!
Y'all *need* to watch the Wire...it's totally designed for that slow-building arc thing.(You better try it one day or I'll get Corwood in here to say the same thing and use more words than this. He'll do it, too.) Of course some of my friends find it like watching disaffected paint dry, but with one exception those folks are not writers...writers tend to love it deep. I think they had me at "English, motherfucker! English!" but I'm atypical, you know? DVD is fricking perfect for it, too. And it's all complicated and messy and the music is cool.
Scrappy - Dec 02, 2005 5:54:27 am PST #7543 of 10003
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.
I second Erika. And, Erika, now that I have watched most of season one of Deadwood, I say you MUST rent this puppy. I know you don't like Westerns, but the setting is immaterial--what the show has is what makes H:LOTS and The Wire so compelling--a complex, dark world, lots of layered characters whose agendas lead to death and conflict and shifting loyalties and many strong women characters and really creepy/smart/sexy villains. I really think you would dig it.
erikaj - Dec 02, 2005 6:01:01 am PST #7544 of 10003
Always Anti-fascist!
It's on the list, Robin. Just haven't gotten to it yet. Have not been fancying complicated entertainments for the last week or so.(Needing a good laugh more. Soon, though.) And I'm a little sad about not getting to be a genre snob anymore. Dag.
Lee - Dec 02, 2005 6:06:21 am PST #7545 of 10003
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.
MG and JZ, watching my S1 DVDS of Veronica Mars is next on my list. Once I have, I would be happy to lend them out.
Topic!Cindy - Dec 02, 2005 6:07:52 am PST #7546 of 10003
What is even happening?
I watch it, but drat it, now that Cindy watches it, I know that it is doomed! ;P
What's sad is, you probably shouldn't have included the emoticon.
Signed,
Kiss of Death
In my defense, I stopped watching The Inside early on, and it died a minearsome death, against the Tim's will.
This is me. I didn't NOT like it, it just didn't do anything for me. (I may have resented the Buffy comparisons.) I watched probably half of the first season before I gave up.
Once tiggy sent the DVDs, I'd say I was hooked about halfway through the season (of course I had the luxury of watching several episodes a night, rather than waiting it out), but I've had several VM fans tell me that it often takes a whole season.
I think the BtVS comparisons put me off mightily, last year. I already had my teeny little supergirl, and some little blonde wannabe wasn't going to come take her place.
Part of the reason I've been making my VM LJ posts as if they were conversations between Buffy and me, is to (this sounds more dramatic than I mean it to) come to terms with this whole "It's the new Buffy" dealio. Joss becoming a fan of the show managed to thrill, annoy, and intrigue me, all at the same time.
I don't know how to not be a Buffy fan. Even if VM someday surpasses BtVS in (what I consider to be) greatness, I can't imagine it surpassing it in my heart, because no matter what VM ever manages to do, BtVS did Becoming, and Restless.
I don't know how to categorize the VM/BtVS commonalities for non-viewers. VM is not aping BtVS in any way. It does have a lot of the same great qualities. The writing is sharp, and assumes the audience has a spare brain cell or three. The acting is great. The characters are well developed, with lots of nice (and not so nice) shading. The rest of the similarities are surface stuff like:
- High School is Hell.
- Love hurts and makes you do the wacky.
...etc.
But, I love story, and a lot of what's important to me about story is how it is told. Cue Giles, "It's all about the journey." There are all those sayings like "There are only 7 plots," (or whatever number plots the speaker believes there), and in some ways, that's true. Most stories (in the world, not on VM) can be summed up in one way or another and equated with a gajillion other stories in the world. It's the telling that matters, and I am captivated by how Rob Thomas is telling this story.
Maybe I'm over TV and can't get into it the way Buffy/Angel/Firefly/Wonderfalls got me in anymore. I don't know. Or maybe that next bright show that suckers me in on many levels just hasn't come along yet. But I shake my head a lot, and don't get the VM hype.
That's how I felt last year, except for JoA, and for me, JoA wasn't a fandom experience. It was more personal. That's exactly what my own relationship with God is like:
GOD: You have to do this thing, and you're not going to like it and it won't make sense, will make you look like a nutter, but I'm making the "you have to" of it really plain to you, so just do it, and save us both a lot of grief, okay?
ME: UGh. No. Maybe I'll half-arse it. Eh, I'm not going to bother, at all.
*epiphany of how everything's gone to Hell since I resisted*
ME: All right. All right. Uncle. Father. Whatever.
GOD: See, isn't that better?
ME: Yes, but couldn't you have just explained what was going to happen, so I would have not resisted in the first place.
GOD: I ask the questions around here.
ME: You don't play fair.
GOD: I don't have to.