I know, world in peril and we have to work together. This is my last office romance, I'll tell you that.

Buffy ,'End of Days'


Spike's Bitches 27: I'm Embarrassed for Our Kind.  

[NAFDA] Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risque (and frisque), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.


JohnSweden - Nov 18, 2005 3:28:27 pm PST #5644 of 10003
I can't even.

Aimee I just can't support executing anyone. No exceptions.

I can't say how strongly I agree with this statement. I work in the Justice system, with many dedicated hard-working super-smart people who know that the system is flawed, that people make mistakes, that evidence can have things go wrong with it, that participants can have agendas or axes to grind. The idea of making (or contributing to) a mistake that caused the state to kill someone just makes our folks ill. Being upclose to the justice system allows you to see that there isn't anything magic or perfect about it, it is as flawed and broken as any human institution, and perhaps more than many.

I'm glad I live in a country that is one step further away from the barbarism that is the death penalty. Jail means always having the opportunity to say we're sorry, we were wrong.


Trudy Booth - Nov 18, 2005 3:28:30 pm PST #5645 of 10003
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

True. I find it very odd that the most vocal anti-abortion folk also seem to be pro-death penalty and pro-war.

This is a peeve with me. It's right up there with "Well I'm a Catholic and the Pope said _____ is wrong" when he said any number of things were wrong and the speaker does half of them.

Hypocracy gets to me.

Oooh! Oooh! And gender double standards in TV familys, say what you will about the Camdens, but they expect the boys to be virgins too. Now I'm risking a rant.


Sophia Brooks - Nov 18, 2005 3:28:31 pm PST #5646 of 10003
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

I don't think there's a bureacratic organization on earth (or an individual, for that matter) who's infalliable or honest enough to be given power over life and death of a human being.

This is actually what I was trying to say above. I mean, for example, Buffistas, who, as a group I certianly trust more than politicians, can barely discuss preferential voting/ how can anyone, anywhere, decide who wil; die. This is not to say thay were I, for example,a character on Lost, I would not turn into Ana Lucia to survive,-- just a statement on basic human nature, and our genaric fallability.


Sophia Brooks - Nov 18, 2005 3:31:02 pm PST #5647 of 10003
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

say what you will about the Camdens,

Thay got cancelled....


Cashmere - Nov 18, 2005 3:34:44 pm PST #5648 of 10003
Now tagless for your comfort.

it is as flawed and broken as any human institution, and perhaps more than many.

WROD.


Trudy Booth - Nov 18, 2005 3:35:20 pm PST #5649 of 10003
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

Thay got cancelled....

They had it coming. There is just no WAY the Rev. is Ruthie's dad.


Connie Neil - Nov 18, 2005 3:35:49 pm PST #5650 of 10003
brillig

I mean, for example, Buffistas, who, as a group I certianly trust more than politicians, can barely discuss preferential voting/ how can anyone, anywhere, decide who wil; die.

Forgive me for finding this so true and funny.


Jessica - Nov 18, 2005 3:37:28 pm PST #5651 of 10003
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

I mean, for example, Buffistas, who, as a group I certianly trust more than politicians, can barely discuss preferential voting/ how can anyone, anywhere, decide who wil; die.

I'm now picturing a proposal in Light Bulbs that we use preferential voting to decide who lives and dies.


Pix - Nov 18, 2005 3:43:21 pm PST #5652 of 10003
The status is NOT quo.

I can see it now:

Live___

Die___

Tickybox!


Kat - Nov 18, 2005 4:36:01 pm PST #5653 of 10003
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

I'm learning a deeper distrust of the criminal justice system in general and not just around the death penalty.

A couple of weeks ago, the Sunday LAT ran a great section on crime. There were several startling statistics on incaraceration including the fact that we have more people in jail in the US than any other country in the world. A quarter of our citizens have been incacerated or are currently so. etc. etc.

To think that we'd give a broken justice sytem the power of the killing people seems wrong. And, it's always been sort of odd to me that we kill people to show people that killing people is wrong.