"It's the law!" by itself isn't a good reason to do something

Yeah, but if you don't buy into the other reasons (which is why, perhaps generously, I assume people don't follow that particular one), what's left other than fear of reprisal?

I don't think cheaters EVER regret cheating. I think they regret getting caught.

-t, did you go to school in CA? That sounds like just the BS my daughter went through when she was in school there. They called it "writing across the curriculum." Every class, even art classes, had to have written exams, with essays and everything. And, it wasn't just that they had written exams in PE, but that they had to turn in papers in every class. Art, even. I thought it was pretty damn dumb.

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t /deadpan.

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I don't think cheaters EVER regret cheating. I think they regret getting caught.

Gris sounded regretful. Not that I would characterize him as a cheater. But in that one instance.

what's left other than fear of reprisal?

Valuing the respect of your peers?

I don't think cheaters EVER regret cheating

I cheated once in college. I don't regret it. Not sure what that says about me.

As part of a much longer paper, I had to interview a "minority child" and analyze the answers based off of child development theories. I couldn't find a minority child to interview, so a friend of mine (who is in her 30's and white) made up answers for me. I then analyzed her made up answers.

Got an A on the whole paper.

Reason enough in my book to come down hard on cheaters.

Well, those guys anyway. I've seen the gamut, from the bald faced liars, to tears and the statement "I have cheated, I deserve to be punished."

I don't think cheaters EVER regret cheating. I think they regret getting caught.

I think some regret cheating, but yes, probably most regret getting caught. Most of the students I've caught have tried to cut a deal. They don't get that it doesn't work that way.

-t, did you go to school in CA? That sounds like just the BS my daughter went through when she was in school there. They called it "writing across the curriculum." Every class, even art classes, had to have written exams, with essays and everything. And, it wasn't just that they had written exams in PE, but that they had to turn in papers in every class. Art, even. I thought it was pretty damn dumb.

I was in Louisiana when I had it, but that's exactly what it was. I think it was even called "writing across the curriculum". Somebody must have read the same how to promote literacy theories.

And congratulations, Sail!

Is it your birthday, sumi? Many happy returns.

t /proof that I didn't read very much in the thread

They called it "writing across the curriculum." Every class, even art classes, had to have written exams, with essays and everything. And, it wasn't just that they had written exams in PE, but that they had to turn in papers in every class. Art, even. I thought it was pretty damn dumb.

Research shows that writing across the curriculum does enhance learning, but writing across the curriculum does not mean just testing. In fact, I don't think it is geared toward testing at all. It's meant to get students to write papers, short stories, lab reports, critiques, whatever.

It sounds like they took a good idea and didn't implement it well.

-t, your PE classes had tests??

Yeah. I don't remember it too clealry, but I think every class was required to have so many written tests. Including PE. i know I was tested on the rules of basketball. To this day I have no idea what they are, other than the ball going through the hoop scores points. It would have been nice to learn something like that in PE, actually.

We had that in high school (Wisconsin) and, actually, it's been one of the more directly useful classes.

called "writing across the curriculum".

Not a part of that, though.