Kaylee: So how many fell madly in love with you and wanted to take you away from all this? Inara: Just the one. I think I'm slipping.

'Serenity'


Spike's Bitches 27: I'm Embarrassed for Our Kind.  

[NAFDA] Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risque (and frisque), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.


Stephanie - Nov 16, 2005 10:30:42 am PST #5079 of 10003
Trust my rage

One of my fellow law students told me about the "the flying V" in which the smartest person on his (undergrad) hockey team would study for a subject and everyone else would sit behind that anchor man and copy his answers. The answers would be copied all the way to the back of the V.


Gudanov - Nov 16, 2005 10:32:16 am PST #5080 of 10003
Coding and Sleeping

I think grades also make a difference when you are looking for your first post-college job. Once you've been in the workplace for awhile, not so much.

I'm bummed. I can't seem to be happy. Marriage problems just keep pulling me down. If not for that, I'd be in a great mood most of the time.


§ ita § - Nov 16, 2005 10:33:17 am PST #5081 of 10003
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

A UCLA student was telling me that they now have to submit their papers online to a multi-university clearing house site that analyses the essays and compares them to papers (on that topic only? don't know) written by students all over the counry before giving them the "original work" thumbs up. She's not that trusting of the computer's ability to tell, but I can see where the institution cares, and not just for their own petty Fascist reasons, that cheating isn't happening.

And I don't see what's wrong with caring about what the institution cares about.


Trudy Booth - Nov 16, 2005 10:35:51 am PST #5082 of 10003
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

There were two students in my class who were accused of cheating on an Introduction to Nursing exam two years ago. As a result, ever since then my entire class is treated like a group of kindergartners. We have to leave our purses and bookbags at the front of the classroom during an exam. We have assigned seating. We have to sign an academic integrity statement at the beginning of each exam. We can't get up to go to the bathroom during an exam. We can't wear hats during the exam (I swear to God). All because two students were accused of cheating on one exam, one time.

How did they get caught? If a bunch of people saw it and no one reported it the restrictions -- as obnoxious as they are -- make some sense.


Jen - Nov 16, 2005 10:35:57 am PST #5083 of 10003
love's a dream you enter though I shake and shake and shake you

Gud, is there anything we can do?

Trudy, they were reported by another student. And I don't think those restrictions make any sense. It's academic "integrity" at the expense of dignity, and that's not a tradeoff I'd be willing to choose if I had a choice.


Emily - Nov 16, 2005 10:37:40 am PST #5084 of 10003
"In the equation E = mc⬧, c⬧ is a pretty big honking number." - Scola

And I don't see what's wrong with caring about what the institution cares about.

Well, sometimes they're your saintly alma mater, and sometimes they're the evil Big Brother (usually in this case they are referred to as The Administration). Which is where the tension is -- when are you protecting yoru own academic experience, and when are you sticking it to the man?

I am flippant. It is because I am so tired I am dizzy and I have a stack of paperwork the size of my head still to get through. Also I think the people here at work have figured out that I am a worthless incompetent and have been for the last six years.


Trudy Booth - Nov 16, 2005 10:38:03 am PST #5085 of 10003
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

Trudy, they were reported by another student.

Then the restrictions are SUPER shitty... unless half a dozen others saw it and said nothing.

t snuggles Gud


§ ita § - Nov 16, 2005 10:40:16 am PST #5086 of 10003
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Well, sometimes they're your saintly alma mater, and sometimes they're the evil Big Brother (usually in this case they are referred to as The Administration).

Which falls in line with nothing inherently being wrong with caring about what your institution cares about. They're not bad because they're an/your institution. Let them earn your distrust.


ChiKat - Nov 16, 2005 10:41:06 am PST #5087 of 10003
That man was going to shank me. Over an omelette. Two eggs and a slice of government cheese. Is that what my life is worth?

{{Gud}}

A UCLA student was telling me that they now have to submit their papers online to a multi-university clearing house site that analyses the essays and compares them to papers (on that topic only? don't know) written by students all over the counry before giving them the "original work" thumbs up. She's not that trusting of the computer's ability to tell, but I can see where the institution cares, and not just for their own petty Fascist reasons, that cheating isn't happening.

It's probably www.turnitin.com. The high school I'm doing my clinicals at this semester uses it. It's a pretty nifty thing. It has a bunch of papers, journal articles, ERIC articles, etc. in it. It also buys all those essays from web sites and puts them in. When a student turns in a paper, that paper ends up in its database, too.

The teacher can look and see a percentage of original vs. potentially non-original work and compare the paper to the source that is identified as the original. The teacher then determines if it was plagiarisim or not.

Quotes will often come up as plagiarism, but it gets highlighted and the teacher determines that it is a quote. Also, you could end up plagiarizing yourself from previously turned in work. But, again, the teacher can see that online so there are no problems there.


Emily - Nov 16, 2005 10:41:56 am PST #5088 of 10003
"In the equation E = mc⬧, c⬧ is a pretty big honking number." - Scola

The restrictions are always shitty, I think. To me cheating is like [failed analogy]. Let me try again. I don't think you can make cheating impossible (short of the kind of individual attention which would improve education at all levels, but ain't gonna happen any time soon), but you can make it unprofitable and less appealing than the alternative. Treating students like criminals makes cheating more likely, not less. In my opinion, that is. But it's one reason I didn't give a damn about cheating going on around me at BU -- the university acted as though none of us could be trusted, which just made me want to act untrustworthy (I didn't, because -- among other things, like my own ethics -- my mother would keeelllll me, but I could understand the temptation).