Yeah, I'm not so righteous (note: righteous, not self righteous) in my moral choices that I'm going to fuck somebody else's life up to enforce my values.

But cheating isn't just *your* value to enforce. I would gather that most professors frown upon cheating as would deans, presidents of universities/colleges, etc.

If you knew of someone who was lying to get ADC or food stamps, would you turn them in?

That has its own - and to my mind even more -pernicious effects.

I don't feel qualified to weigh the relative perniciousness, but I do see what you're saying -- either way can be seen as part of a slippery slope. Everyone telling on everyone for anything leads to an atmosphere of no trust and fascism. But no one reporting anything leads to a situation where only cheaters prosper, and short-term gain is the highest good.

Em, did your appointment show up? Oh, and you have e.

Or Truth, or Fairness or whatever principle you think is harmed.

Truth is the only thing I would go to the wall for. I have no problem whatsoever turning in someone for trying to misrepresent themselves.

If you knew of someone who was lying to get ADC or food stamps, would you turn them in?

Depends on what I'd know of their situation, and I say this having worked post-charge diversion where a lot of our cases were welfare fraud. If it's a matter of survival for the family, no, I would not.

You do know someone who has done that. In the past, yes, but I did because nobody would get anything telling the gospel truth on a food stamp form. Does that make the answer different? (If it doesn't, I'm a dumbass, too.)

Bugger

DH's interview went well. He liked the company and the work he would be doing. Then they talked money. It is a non-profit company. What they are offering is no where close to what he was making before, plus the job is in SF, so added commute costs.

Bugger.

I would gather that most professors frown upon cheating as would deans, presidents of universities/colleges, etc.

They frown on drinking too, but it would not occur to most college students to report that.

I am the sort who would confront someone about plagiarism, but not cheating. I see it as their problem, which I realize is totally inconsistent.

I didn't know you went to BU

For grad school. 2001-04.

If you knew of someone who was lying to get ADC or food stamps, would you turn them in?

Ooh, trickier question, in my book -- are they lying because they totally don't need them, or are they lying because legislation from unconnected politicians has meant they can't get them and they desperately need them?

And no, she's a no-show for the third week in a row. Guess I'll call her. (Also, I thought "you have e" meant I'd failed some class, and there was a tiny moment of raw shock before I figured it out.)

I'd turn a cheater in. I feel like the person cheating isn't just doing themselves harm, but also doing ME harm in the overall sense of justice.

College is competititve. Students have to compete to even get into college. And if someone gets in there who shouldn't be in, or gets to stay in simply because they're cheating well, that just pisses me off.

It may be aligned with the power structure of the institution, but by allowing it to go on, I'd be hurting myself as well as the institution by not reporting it.