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Consuela - Oct 19, 2005 7:14:23 pm PDT #7455 of 10002
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

I'm watching Frontline on the torture of prisoners at Guantanamo and Abu Ghraib, and I'm embarrassed by my country.

It's such an institutional clusterfuck.

The two-star general's instructions were to treat the prisoners like dogs.

How is it these people are still in power? How are they not run out of office in shame?


Pix - Oct 19, 2005 7:16:02 pm PDT #7456 of 10002
We're all getting played with, babe. -Weird Barbie

I have a friend who was stationed at Guantanamo as a translator. The stories he told--and didn't tell--sickened us both.


Allyson - Oct 19, 2005 7:19:15 pm PDT #7457 of 10002
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

I keep waiting for sme other country to roust Bush out of bed all crazy in his underwear and then liberate us.


beth b - Oct 19, 2005 7:23:08 pm PDT #7458 of 10002
oh joy! Oh Rapture ! I have a brain!

can't watch such things. how can anybody not see what we did/do is wrong?


tommyrot - Oct 19, 2005 7:29:09 pm PDT #7459 of 10002
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Or, if for some unfathomable reason they can't see that it's wrong, why can't they see that it's very counterproductive? in that torture doesn't yield reliable info and it has made many more people throughout the world hate us... Oh, and another reason why we didn't used to torture people is to make it less likely our soldiers and citizens would be tortured if they were captured.


tommyrot - Oct 19, 2005 7:42:22 pm PDT #7460 of 10002
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

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Consuela - Oct 19, 2005 8:19:47 pm PDT #7461 of 10002
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

Now that I've seen the rest of it -- it appears that the abuse is endemic, and not confined to the prisons or formal interrogations. One of the former interrogators is testifying that it's happening all over Iraq.


P.M. Marc - Oct 19, 2005 8:40:19 pm PDT #7462 of 10002
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

I keep waiting for sme other country to roust Bush out of bed all crazy in his underwear and then liberate us.

Me too.


Burrell - Oct 19, 2005 8:52:46 pm PDT #7463 of 10002
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

HRm. I can't respond right now to the torture thing. My thoughts are too... too... I have too many of them on the subject. (No, it's true. I tried to write an essay on it but then I got pregnant, and now all those thoughts are there just waiting to be written down.)

Anyway, I had a great birthday. One of my students brought me flowers. And then after school, we went to a little French cafe I like and Franny was all perky but basically well behaved and Isaac was sweet as usual and I had steak au poivre and Franny ate most of my frites.

Now I am tired.


Lee - Oct 19, 2005 8:55:04 pm PDT #7464 of 10002
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

Yay! for great Birthdays.