Lindsey: Why--why did you... Lorne: One last job. You're not part of the solution, Lindsey. You never will be. Lindsey: You kill me? A flunky?! I'm not just...Angel...kills me. You...Angel... Lorne: Good night, folks.

'Not Fade Away'


Natter 39 and Holding  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Tom Scola - Oct 12, 2005 7:12:44 am PDT #5487 of 10002
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.

Yay, Allyson!!


Susan W. - Oct 12, 2005 7:15:24 am PDT #5488 of 10002
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

Woohoo, Allyson!

Fingers crossed for you.


§ ita § - Oct 12, 2005 7:19:11 am PDT #5489 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

The mango news makes me feel a bit better.

Katie Holmes’s dad is said to be “very upset” because his unmarried daughter is pregnant with Cruise’s child.


Katie M - Oct 12, 2005 7:21:25 am PDT #5490 of 10002
I was charmed (albeit somewhat perplexed) by the fannish sensibility of many of the music choices -- it's like the director was trying to vid Canada. --loligo on the Olympic Opening Ceremonies

Hey, is there anyone around who knows statistics? I've got a yes/no survey here with a response rate of about 56%, and I want to know if there's any way to get from that to a margin of error on the percentage of yeses. It seems like there must be, but frankly it's been six years since I had stats and most of it is apparently gone from my brain.


Jesse - Oct 12, 2005 7:27:48 am PDT #5491 of 10002
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

You need the total sample size, Katie, I'm pretty sure. Like here: [link]


Jesse - Oct 12, 2005 7:40:03 am PDT #5492 of 10002
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

In other news, I am now convinced that the Vitamin Water is magic, as I seem to be pretty much all better today. So that's something.


§ ita § - Oct 12, 2005 7:41:46 am PDT #5493 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I've never thought of it as magic, but I have thought of it as crack.


Rick - Oct 12, 2005 7:42:36 am PDT #5494 of 10002

As Jesse says, just by knowing the sample size you can get what pollsters call margin of error, which is a broad concept that applies to all of the numbers in their poll. It's fairly useless from a statistical standpoint, but good enough to tell whether you should take the numbers seriously at all.

If you want a specific confidence interval for your .56 you compute the standard error. You take the square root of:

(.56*(1-.56)/N where N is the sample size.

Then once you have the standard error you multiply it by the factor that will give you a given confidence interval. For instance, + or - 1.96 times the error gives you a 95% confidence interval for the percentage.


Jesse - Oct 12, 2005 7:44:23 am PDT #5495 of 10002
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

I've never thought of it as magic, but I have thought of it as crack.

Possibly that too, and I'll only feel good as long as I keep drinking it.

It is truly pathetic how fast I forgot everything I "learned" in stats class last year.


sarameg - Oct 12, 2005 7:44:54 am PDT #5496 of 10002

Whenever I see vitamin water or smart water or any of the other kinds of minorly doctored waters, I think of miracle-gro. I can't help it. Maybe it was one too many years of grade school "which is the best fertilizer" experiments.