Lorne: Take care of yourself and ah, make sure fluffy is getting enough love. Gunn: Did he have anything? Fred: No. And who's fluffy? Are you fluffy? Gunn: He called me fluffy? Fred: He said make sure…wait. You don't think he was referring to anything of mine that's fluffy, do you? Because that would just be inappropriate.

'Conviction (1)'


Natter 39 and Holding  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Sparky1 - Oct 11, 2005 5:06:28 pm PDT #5404 of 10002
Librarian Warlord

When I was 12 my paternal grandmother died. It was the first time I had to deal with the death of someone close to me, and I remember the shock I got when I saw the open casket. A few minutes later, a little old woman came up to me and the rest of the grandchildren and introduced herself as one of my father's (and his brothers') elementary school teachers. She proceeded to tell us all sorts of stories about "the boys" that were also stories about our grandmother. She had us all laughing at the ways our fathers had misbehaved and how my grandmother had found them out. Hearing stories we'd never heard before about my grandmother was a great way to celebrate her life.

Heck knows my father would have never told me about the day he pushed his brother Stanley into the pond and tried to put one over my grandmother...


sarameg - Oct 11, 2005 5:16:00 pm PDT #5405 of 10002

See, this is how lives are lived. They end, and yet they prompt those of us left to remember that they were lived. And that's lovely.


Atropa - Oct 11, 2005 5:17:28 pm PDT #5406 of 10002
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

I found this pic -- but maybe they'll try and sign Jilli up instead -- that'd be a sight, especially if they let her have a parasol and a purse

You look wonderful in that picture. I would try to add you to the list of decorative people I want to keep in cages and play dress-up with, but, y'know. Killing. Pinky. That sort of thing.

JZ, the ceremony sounded lovely.


Jessica - Oct 11, 2005 5:18:52 pm PDT #5407 of 10002
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

TAR, I am SO over Team Florida. I swear, if that woman thanks God for one more thing, I will beat her with a shovel. (And if when I die, there is a God, and he is sitting on His Ass watching CBS? I'm gonna be doubly pissed.)

I really want the Ganghans (sp?) to catch up. Those kids ROCK.


Jesse - Oct 11, 2005 5:21:30 pm PDT #5408 of 10002
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

See, this is how lives are lived. They end, and yet they prompt those of us left to remember that they were lived. And that's lovely.

This. This is lovely, sara.


Allyson - Oct 11, 2005 5:21:47 pm PDT #5409 of 10002
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

Gay Wedding Tree!!!


Kate P. - Oct 11, 2005 5:25:05 pm PDT #5410 of 10002
That's the pain / That cuts a straight line down through the heart / We call it love

My grandfather would have enjoyed his hugely.

I'm so glad, and I'm glad that you were able to know that.

Where was your grandfather's service, and what was it like? (Something good, I'm guessing, or it wouldn't be a pleasant memory for you.) Would it have made him happy?

Yeah, it would have. He was buried in the family plot in a beautiful park in Kansas City, and then the memorial service was held in his church the next day. My uncle read a long piece that all the siblings (my dad's generation) had put together, and the three oldest cousins read a few of his favorite passages from Scripture. I read the Beatitudes. Then there was a long section when people just got up and spoke about him and the impact he'd had on their lives.

I've been trying to write this paragraph for half an hour now, and I'm not saying what I want to say, but: he would have been really honored and touched to see how many people were there: family, neighbors, Habitat families, friends he'd made through his church or his work, black people, white people--people whose lives he'd actually changed for the better. And I learned things about him I'd never known, like how he joined an interfaith group in the 60s who were dedicated to eradicating racism in their church communities, and by extension, in the larger Kansas City community, and started a program to create libraries in local prisons. It was really awesome, in the full-of-awe sense of the word.


Cass - Oct 11, 2005 5:30:19 pm PDT #5411 of 10002
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

and I'm not saying what I want to say
What you did say was really beautiful... He sounds like quite an amazing man.


sarameg - Oct 11, 2005 5:40:04 pm PDT #5412 of 10002

Back when I was in college, one of my dorm mates would startle you by telling you what she really cherished about you. It's something most of us just aren't in the habit of doing.

At my eldest aunt's 50th wedding anniversary, all the sibs told a story or two of their interaction with the courting (since some were 13 years younger, it was hilarious. Apparently, my mom and her little brother interfered in the formal asking for-my-aunt's-hand with grampa.) But the thing that struck me was that there are so many more of these stories, these appreciations. My grandfather wrote 20 pages of autobiography. Stories burble up out of casual conversation. Hell, I didn't know of a half uncle and an exhusband (other side of the family) until I was in my teens.

But what I know is this: I remind my mom of hers, and from what I hear? That's a damned honor (she had a masters in math. In 1930. And would converse on any topic presented.) Grampa Floyd was a terrible courter, nearly food poisoned my grandma with reheated beans on a wood stove (partly why she married him, she said. Otherwise, he'd kill himself. He said he was the only one who would tolerate her bossiness. And he LIKED it.) We still have the wedding ring quilts gramps' family (which included 4 dead wives) made for them. It's history. It's mine.


sumi - Oct 11, 2005 5:50:07 pm PDT #5413 of 10002
Art Crawl!!!

TAR: That was an excellent prize for first place. And seriously, for that team, where all four team members no doubt drive an amazing one.

I am also so very ready for Team Florida to go - also Team Jersey and I'm so very sad that the Boston Team is gone.