I can't speak from personal experience, but I suspect the "no sounds or expressions of pain" thing won't last terribly long once labor really gets going. Especially without drugs.
Eh, I wasn't especially loud, and probably could have done the whole thing quietly, but birth isn't exactly peaceful for the kidlet, who's the one getting his or her head squished while he or she gets pushed out.
So, the notion that somehow being a quiet little woman while you do it makes it all better is... kind of absurd.
My family was in the meat business for three generations. I've seen vegetables that had higher IQs than cattle. I was going to things like openings of meat processing plants when I was a kid. I do think the time they gave toy lambs to the kids at the opening of a lamb processing plant was in questionable taste. "Oh, see the lambs. They're so cute. Let's kill them."
I'll give Tony Danza a pass because he seemed to be commenting on the double standard, not criticizing the pregnancy per se.
but how is it a double standard?
I do think the time they gave toy lambs to the kids at the opening of a lamb processing plant was in questionable taste.
When I grow up, I'm going to go to Bovine University!
but how is it a double standard?
Yeah. I dont get it.
It's like, "msbelle, you don't like rhubarb so you can't possibly have a cat."
It doesn't make sense.
but how is it a double standard?
Maybe "hypocrisy" is the better word. Danza seemed to be saying that Cruise shouldn't be so eager to raise a big moral fuss about antidepressant medication if he's going to violate traditional moral values with premarital sex. IOW, it isn't the sex/pregnancy, it's Cruise's "I'm above the rules" attitude.
IOW, it isn't the sex/pregnancy, it's Cruise's "I'm above the rules" attitude.
Does Scientology have a rule about premarital sex/kids, though?
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Does Scientology have a rule about premarital sex/kids, though?
That was my question, and it must really not.