How did your brain even learn human speech? I'm just so curious.

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Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


§ ita § - Sep 23, 2005 9:15:00 am PDT #369 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Although the expression probably began in the specific sense in which I used it -- offer up a sacrifical victim in your own stead --, it has been generalized to mean "wash your hands of so-and-so, usually for not a good enough reason."

How does throwing someone under a bus work as a scapegoat/distraction? In fact, I'd thought throwing someone to the wolves was a "so they won't eat me" gesture, opposite to Vortex's read.


msbelle - Sep 23, 2005 9:15:59 am PDT #370 of 10002
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

Kat's pictures made me bounce. Lunch was fantastic as predicted and I even have some cobbler left over.


Nora Deirdre - Sep 23, 2005 9:16:13 am PDT #371 of 10002
I’m responsible for my own happiness? I can’t even be responsible for my own breakfast! (Bojack Horseman)

I've heard "throw [person] to the wolves," but never "throw [person] under the bus."

Me too.


Cashmere - Sep 23, 2005 9:17:24 am PDT #372 of 10002
Now tagless for your comfort.

Allyson's story about the fan is just as charming. And here I am, trapped in the UNCHARMING Midwest without a Serenity premier. Fooey, I say, FOOEY!

UGH! I told you I walked out of my first ever OB appointment when pregnant with Ben, right?

Cindy, it's even funnier because this is the first appointment Christopher was able to make with me and he has ZERO tolerance for overbooked doctors. Good thing our doc is so damned funny. He made us laugh and we forgot about the hideously long wait. It also helped that we got taco bell right afterwards since we were both starving.

Happy Birthday, Emmett!!! Many happy returns!!!


flea - Sep 23, 2005 9:17:34 am PDT #373 of 10002
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My husband is a grandfather-abbreviated-for-business-purposes-formerly-a-ski. My favorite teacher-name was the Armenian 4th grade teacher Mrs. Dermanuelian.

Nutty now spends too long reading sports blogs - she has picked up the lingo. Cult! Cult! Not our cult!


Kalshane - Sep 23, 2005 9:17:40 am PDT #374 of 10002
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why? Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.

is "throw Person X under the bus" totally unknown outside of sports journalism?

I think I've heard it before, but it's not the first thing that comes to mind when I hear the phrase.

If I'd said, "attempted to throw Tejada to the wolves," would you all have thought there was really a pack of hungry wolves standing around in suburban Baltimore?

No. That one I've heard numerous times before.

Of course, I never realized where the phrase "throw in the towel" actually came from until I was at a kick-boxing match and this one guy was just getting completely demolished by his opponent from the instant the bell sounded. Next thing I knew there was a towel sailing into the ring and they called the fight. It was a distinct epiphany moment.


Atropa - Sep 23, 2005 9:18:29 am PDT #375 of 10002
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

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I, too, was thinking literal bus, and for a second, baseball was interesting.

Hey look! Plei has my brain. But I don't want any hippy woowoo.

Happy birthday, Emmett!

The idea of fans cheering Allyson makes me happy, and I started giggling at the NF phone call.


Gudanov - Sep 23, 2005 9:18:30 am PDT #376 of 10002
Coding and Sleeping

Allyson's story about the fan is just as charming. And here I am, trapped in the UNCHARMING Midwest without a Serenity premier.

I'll probably have to wait until it goes to DVD to see it.


Nutty - Sep 23, 2005 9:18:47 am PDT #377 of 10002
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

And prior to his positive test, I would have told you

So would we all, we logical creatures. Which is why it's so boggling.

How does throwing someone under a bus work as a scapegoat/distraction?

I don't know. And, why not "in front of" the bus, so he can get walloped? It's very hard to throw a 200-lb. man under a moving bus, and a bus that is not moving, the guy could just crawl out the other side. It's a conundrum.

I will say, "throwing X to the wolves" does evoke that story from My Antonia, where the two Russian dudes threw the bride off the sleigh so that it would be lighter and they would escape. So, that does have a certain sacrificial lamb aspect to it as well.


DavidS - Sep 23, 2005 9:20:18 am PDT #378 of 10002
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Dear Hec, while Emmett is undoubtedly the best 9 near old evah, aren't you worried about spoiling him? Signed, didn't get a shuffle and a bike for MY birthday, damn it.

The only bike he currently has is a hand-me-down, and it's gotten too small for him. Hence the bike getting. As for the shuffle, it's sort of a practical consideration based on: his discman burns through batteries, it's bigger and heavier and his backpack is already insanely heavy and he's using up a lot of my blank discs to make burns. So it'll just be more portable for him and since he has to do a lot of commuting I'm just throwing some entertainment into that gap.

I wonder if there are cool podcasts for kids. Like...Dr. Demento or something.