Sir? I'd like you to take the helm, please. I need this man to tear all my clothes off.

Zoe ,'Serenity'


Natter 39 and Holding  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Daisy Jane - Sep 30, 2005 6:30:55 am PDT #2282 of 10002
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."

I'm also about to get into a full-on flame-war with that bitch who posted the stuff I quoted here yesterday, about New Orleans being an embarassment to the state.

Dude. If you need, I got your back.


dw - Sep 30, 2005 6:33:13 am PDT #2283 of 10002
Silence means security silence means approval

New York-based totebag carrying liberals.

look. me.

HI!

Point being that NPR reporting can fall into this sort of cultural condescension, wittingly or not. And being it was the Red Sox, the NEW YORK-BASED part is the important thing here.

I would in fact argue that Boston is the only place in which that kind of anthropological condescension can be fairly performed, since Boston reveres its own sensibility as traditional, obscure, superstitious, somewhat strange.

I can say the same thing about Tulsa, only swap the whaling for oil, the New York rivalry with Oklahoma City, and Red Sox traditions with Sooner traditions. And steep in a mixture of Charismatic, Evangelical, and Fundamentalist Christianity, then top it with some televangelists.

Boston thinks it's the Hub, but Tulsa has this moral superiority about itself. And then there's the Center of the Universe here in Seattle....

The only joke of the piece was that Orlean didn't seem to get how much Boston's quaintness is intentional.

Or maybe she did and just had the tongue too firmly in cheek.

I almost feel like writing the ombudsman about it.


Volans - Sep 30, 2005 6:34:34 am PDT #2284 of 10002
move out and draw fire

combines baseball talk with chav talk by pointing at Mr. Carroll's Yankees cap.


Nutty - Sep 30, 2005 6:41:04 am PDT #2285 of 10002
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

I can say the same thing about Tulsa

Except that Tulsa has no baseball team. All but the most psychotic ordinary citizens understand that Boston is a city of 600,000, compared to New York's eleventy million residents. It is only in baseball that Boston transforms into a chest-forward, neck-waggling, finger-pointing Jerry Springer guest.


Jesse - Sep 30, 2005 6:44:58 am PDT #2286 of 10002
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

female chavs pull their hair tightly back in buns or ponytails, a style known as a "council house facelift,"

This makes me laugh. I'm not saying that it's nice to call people names, but still.


Jesse - Sep 30, 2005 6:45:51 am PDT #2287 of 10002
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

It is only in baseball that Boston transforms into a chest-forward, neck-waggling, finger-pointing Jerry Springer guest.

Also, race relations. In reputation, anyway.


Scrappy - Sep 30, 2005 6:46:03 am PDT #2288 of 10002
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

Vicky, on the brilliant show Little Britain, is a chav, velour track suit and all.


msbelle - Sep 30, 2005 6:52:58 am PDT #2289 of 10002
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

I'm not saying that it's nice to call people names.

WHAT!?!?!


Jesse - Sep 30, 2005 6:53:43 am PDT #2290 of 10002
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Sometimes, I'm.... not nice.

Hey, are we B&T now? Should I be wearing tighter clothes?


dw - Sep 30, 2005 6:57:44 am PDT #2291 of 10002
Silence means security silence means approval

Except that Tulsa has no baseball team.

Aaah, but they have college football. Not quite on the "You were on the 40-man roster for the 2004 Red Sox? You're getting SOOO lucky tonight" level of insanity, but it's really, really bad.

There's an old saying that when someone moves to Oklahoma, before they pick a house or a doctor, they must pick between OU and OSU. And the easiest way to get kicked out of a family is to plan your wedding for OU-Texas weekend.

Also, race relations. In reputation, anyway.

See, also an area in which Boston and Tulsa are analogues. Boston had the busing riots of the 70s. Tulsa had the Greenwood Riot of 1921. Both are never mentioned in conversation, polite or otherwise.

Tulsa: Boston's long lost twin brother, countrified.