I battle evil. But I don't really win. The bad keeps coming back and getting stronger. Like that kid in the story, the boy that stuck his finger in the duck.

Buffy ,'Showtime'


Natter 39 and Holding  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


bon bon - Sep 30, 2005 6:08:56 am PDT #2263 of 10002
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

This article is so interesting and HI-larious: [link]

Mr. Carroll is an object of national fascination in part because of his apparently pathological criminality, and in part because he represents a kind of Briton known as a chav. Chavs, whether rich or poor, tend to favor gaudy jewelry and expensive-but-tacky clothes with big logos and to behave in a way that others find coarse or obnoxious.

Male chavs wear tracksuits and baseball caps; female chavs pull their hair tightly back in buns or ponytails, a style known as a "council house facelift," from the term for public housing.
...
Chav behavior - outrageous spending sprees, drunken brawls, inappropriate public displays of affection, screaming matches with loved ones in bars, destruction of property, late-night stumbling and/or vomiting - provide celebrity magazines here with much of their material. Among British women, Coleen McLoughlin, the girlfriend of the soccer star Wayne Rooney, is seen as a celebrity chav.
...
Others in the greater chav universe are David and Victoria Beckham, who would hate to be considered chavs but who nonetheless wore matching purple outfits and sat on matching thrones at their wedding; and Jordan, a former topless model who recently traveled to her own wedding in a Cinderella-style carriage shaped like a pumpkin and pulled by six white horses.


msbelle - Sep 30, 2005 6:15:05 am PDT #2264 of 10002
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

Chavs = B&T crowd. also? all the Gottis.


dw - Sep 30, 2005 6:16:05 am PDT #2265 of 10002
Silence means security silence means approval

You mean the piece on NPR this morning? It couldn't have been more condescending and insulting if she used an electric insult machine on National Condescend to Fans Day.

It was a British colonial sort of condescending. "Oh, look at these silly natives and let me imply the superiority of Britannia, er, New York-based totebag carrying liberals."


Jim - Sep 30, 2005 6:18:16 am PDT #2266 of 10002
Ficht nicht mit Der Raketemensch!

Yeah, Chav is a particularly unpleasant new term - it's precisely cognate with "white trash".


sarameg - Sep 30, 2005 6:18:26 am PDT #2267 of 10002

I want a monte cristo sandwich.

Sadly, it doesn't appear I'll get one.


amych - Sep 30, 2005 6:18:28 am PDT #2268 of 10002
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

Chavs = B&T crowd. also? all the Gottis.

I was just thinking Chav = redneck. Go team region-specific associations!


Matt the Bruins fan - Sep 30, 2005 6:18:47 am PDT #2269 of 10002
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

These pants are in excellent condition. They were never taken on pirate expeditions. They weren't worn onstage. They didn't straddle a Harley, or a guy named Harley. They just hung there, sad and ignored, for a few presidencies.

Too funny. Oh, to have the 30 inch waistline that would let me bid on them...


UTTAD - Sep 30, 2005 6:19:19 am PDT #2270 of 10002
Strawberry disappointment.

Chavs are known as neds in Scotland.

Also, at work, I listen to an American radio station and during the news, I half caught a story about some guy who said on a TV/radio interview that if you aborted all the black babies then the crime rate in America would drop.

I didn't hear that right, did I?


msbelle - Sep 30, 2005 6:19:25 am PDT #2271 of 10002
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

New York-based totebag carrying liberals.

look. me.


Steph L. - Sep 30, 2005 6:19:34 am PDT #2272 of 10002
I look more rad than Lutheranism

You mean the piece on NPR this morning? It couldn't have been more condescending and insulting if she used an electric insult machine on National Condescend to Fans Day.

To be fair, there are VAST numbers of tone-deaf singers in Fenway Park any given night, and she was sitting next to one of them.

I didn't think she was insulting the tone-deaf singers, but rather the whole tradition of singing Sweet Caroline.