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Natter 39 and Holding  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Theodosia - Sep 26, 2005 6:11:26 pm PDT #1102 of 10002
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

I'll take CKR, weathered or no. It's just the character showing through, really.


dw - Sep 26, 2005 6:23:22 pm PDT #1103 of 10002
Silence means security silence means approval

In fact, there are seven knee ligaments, if I am counting correctly. They are the patellar, oblique popliteal, arcuate popliteal, tibial collateral, fibular collateral, and anterior and posterior cruciate ligaments. The MCL you're referring to is, I am guessing, the meniscus? Or medial condyle.

I've heard it called the medial collateral ligament.

Still, yes, I would say if you're up to three torn items in one knee, then just say that the knee is frelled.

And he's out for the season.

OTOH, it drives me nuts when sportswriters don't differentiate between the rotator cuff and the labrum. One is basically fatal to pitching careers, while the other is not.

We know the difference around here in Seattle, since every pitcher has either a labrum or rotator problem.

A vast majority of pitchers with rotator problems eventually recover. Something like only 15% of labrum tears ever fully heal.


Nutty - Sep 26, 2005 6:36:10 pm PDT #1104 of 10002
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

And of course, a rotator cuff problem shows up on an MRI, whereas a labrum problem really doesn't. You have to open the shoulder up to get a good look, and if you're in there, good effing luck fixing that thing.

One of the reasons Pedro Martinez is no longer with the Red Sox is that his shoulder trouble is pretty much assumed to be labrum, not rotator cuff. He went through the strengthening therapy that rotator cuff people do (that has not worked at all for Wade Miller, whose journey under the knife is imminent), but even "healthy", his outcome-profile was classic labrum trouble: difficulty warming up, bad first innings before settling in, need for extra rest. His velocity has declined seriously in the past three years.

Red Sox management basically forecasted that he wouldn't be pitching at the end of a four-year contract, and refused to offer him one. The Mets, OTOH, don't need him pitching four years from now (not really); they need him pitching this year, while the cable channel negotiations are being finalized.

I've heard it called the medial collateral ligament.

Maybe so. I know the difference between a meniscus (basically, a washer) and a ligament (a screw), but I don't know what a condyle is at all, and I've put away the anatomy book.


Betsy HP - Sep 26, 2005 6:37:45 pm PDT #1105 of 10002
If I only had a brain...

. He went through the strengthening therapy that rotator cuff people do

Shit. I haven't done mine in a month, and both shoulders are going ballistic.

On the good news side, my pitching isn't affected at all.


Aims - Sep 26, 2005 6:43:44 pm PDT #1106 of 10002
Shit's all sorts of different now.

Watched GA for the first time last night.

Totally hooked.

Sunday has become my tv-night. WW, DH, and GA.

t walks home with Dempsy


Burrell - Sep 26, 2005 7:51:25 pm PDT #1107 of 10002
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

KC was on tonight? I forgot.

I am pathetic. I can't remember anything. I just need to set Tivo and then be all "oo! lookee! new tv to watch!"


Lee - Sep 26, 2005 7:55:40 pm PDT #1108 of 10002
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

It was, Burrell. Bradley Cooper, who is all mine (sorry Kat), was very cute.


Burrell - Sep 26, 2005 8:01:47 pm PDT #1109 of 10002
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

I have no idea who Bradley Cooper is. Oh well. I guess I'll try to see it next week, if I don't suffer from another brain fart.


sumi - Sep 26, 2005 8:10:04 pm PDT #1110 of 10002
Art Crawl!!!

I did not see the CKR Bliss.


§ ita § - Sep 26, 2005 8:20:01 pm PDT #1111 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I did not see the CKR Bliss.

CRAP. You are lucky to not have seen it.

My god I can spot a trouble krav student at ten paces. Blindfolded. Or, in more literal terms, during warmup. I spotted one today and thought "Okay -- prove me wrong." And I was proved righter than I'd have wanted.

And I don't mean "bad." I mean "problem." You can be very good, and problem. It means you complain in response to instruction. It means you make up your own mind about how you want to do techniques.

Stay home and save your money. This is totally voluntary.