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'The Message'


Spike's Bitches 26: Damn right I'm impure!  

[NAFDA] Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risque (and frisque), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.


erikaj - Oct 04, 2005 1:07:04 pm PDT #6297 of 10001
Always Anti-fascist!

Sadly, it's getting so when I hear "Christian" what I hear is: (stereotypes ahoy, mind you) "I believe everything that Jerry Falwell tells me to.Life is just easier when the people at church tell me what to think so I don't have to." "This country was a better place before women got all uppity and you could still carry a gun everywhere and hit your kids." I'm very sorry...I know that's not true. But there are some scary people whom I don't like dominating my state's religious discourse so that it is easy to be poisoned. And the demon-removers, of course. Can't forget them.


Sean K - Oct 04, 2005 1:09:16 pm PDT #6298 of 10001
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

I know full well that when George W. Bush says "God bless America," he doesn't mean Allah or Adonai or Buddha or Ganesh or Cerwidden or Hee-Haw the Giant Donkey God. He means *his* God, *his* way,

I certainly agree with this. I think Christians who look down on other Christians for not being Christian enough (cf extreme right-wing Christians on the subject of Christians who vote Democrat) also freak me out. At that point, it seems much less about tending to people's souls as it is about getting all up in other people's business.


Sean K - Oct 04, 2005 1:11:06 pm PDT #6299 of 10001
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

I'm very sorry...I know that's not true. But there are some scary people whom I don't like dominating my state's religious discourse so that it is easy to be poisoned.

And erika makes a good point that is easy for me to forget (and one of the reasons I try very hard to temper my reactions). It's a very vocal minority, some of whom have a VERY big megaphone to espouse their beliefs, that have poisoned me so hard toward Christianity.


P.M. Marc - Oct 04, 2005 1:14:42 pm PDT #6300 of 10001
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

I think Christians who look down on other Christians for not being Christian enough (cf extreme right-wing Christians on the subject of Christians who vote Democrat) also freak me out.

That'd be Paul's aunt.

Who disowned her brothers, and sent back family pictures with herself cut out of them because her brothers just were not Christian enough to count (where Christian = Hyperconservative Southern Baptist).


Sean K - Oct 04, 2005 1:15:44 pm PDT #6301 of 10001
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

Seriously, WTF????

That is a thought process that seems very alien to me.


WindSparrow - Oct 04, 2005 1:15:46 pm PDT #6302 of 10001
Love is stronger than death and harder than sorrow. Those who practice it are fierce like the light of stars traveling eons to pierce the night.

I bought a scarecrow today, for a price reasonable enough that I probably couldn't buy constituent parts and make one myself for less. I've got it propped up against the tree out front. I wonder if Daniel will notice it when he drives in.


dw - Oct 04, 2005 1:16:24 pm PDT #6303 of 10001
Silence means security silence means approval

Islam, Wicca, and atheism each comprise less than 1% of the American population.

True, but look at their growth rates over the last ten years. The number of Christians (according to the table ibid.) grew by 8M, a 5% gain. Islam jumped by half a million, but that's a doubling. The Pagan Metroplex is only now getting picked up by surveys, but I'd wager it's at least doubled in size as well. And the "nonreligious" group has doubled as well, giving it 13% of the population.

Think about it this way: You have a product that has an 85-90% market share. One day you look at the numbers and notice that while sales of your product have risen 5% over the last 10 years, competitors have doubled their sales over that period, and your market share is now under 80%. Would you go, "Oh, that's great, more the merrier." Or would you start working on a plan to staunch the flow of customers to your competitors?

(Info from adherents.com. eta: Please pardon me while I fall over laughing as I notice that "Wicca/Pagan/Druid" is on their list of organized religions. 'Cause..no. Really, we're not.

You give Christianity far more credit for being organized than you should.


DavidS - Oct 04, 2005 1:24:41 pm PDT #6304 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Yowtch. The Pale Hose are crushing the Bosox.


dw - Oct 04, 2005 1:27:25 pm PDT #6305 of 10001
Silence means security silence means approval

Sadly, it's getting so when I hear "Christian" what I hear is: (stereotypes ahoy, mind you) "I believe everything that Jerry Falwell tells me to.Life is just easier when the people at church tell me what to think so I don't have to." "This country was a better place before women got all uppity and you could still carry a gun everywhere and hit your kids." I'm very sorry...I know that's not true.

But you know that's not true. You know that the Christians on this board thinks Falwell spouts bullshit and women are co-equal with men and guns should be like mouths and not shot off at will and that children are lethal cute-bombs.

And that's my problem with this stupid stereotyping. It's basically a crypto-elitism. I am better than you because you __________. And you fill in the blank with whatever you want and feel all smug about it.

It's all fucking bullshit, people, no matter who says it. In the end, we're all dead anyway.

But there are some scary people whom I don't like dominating my state's religious discourse so that it is easy to be poisoned.

Yes, they are of the devil, because they use religion as a political lever to entrench themselves further into power. Religion and power do not mix. Those Christians who have helped push the GOP bandwagon up the hill will soon find themselves going off the cliff with it.


Aims - Oct 04, 2005 1:27:40 pm PDT #6306 of 10001
Shit's all sorts of different now.

Hee-Haw the Giant Donkey God

I just found my new diety. Sam Wainwright is our Pope.