This. I had enough knock-down-drag-outs about how Dad should just ignore all those Unsatisfactory effort marks -- if I was getting 100s on the tests, why should I expend any more energy than I had to?

Yes, exactly. I barely did my homework when it WAS graded; if it wasn't, there would have been no hope of me doing it.

*POOF* You're problem is taken care of, brenda.

ION, I am weird. I will check b.org and e-mail while my search pages are loading, but I won't go to the bathroom. I don't want to appear as a slacker, so I have to pee SO BADLY right now.

I know. I'm weird.

vw! Go for winky-tinks!

If there had been no grading at all, fugeddaboutit.

I'm a fan of pass/fail myself. I hate having to enforce rules I don't always agree with.

IO(parentingsucks)N, Bobby threw up all over the bus, the car pool mom's car, and then his bed. He's asleep now and I am back at work. He had chocolate milk and a juice at lunch. Too much sugar for him. Looks like no baseball practice tonight. He'll sleep until about 10 or so, then wake up starving.

I'm a fan of pass/fail myself.

I would've worked for a pass. No accounting at all, though? Hell, I still don't do boring stuff just because it's the right thing to do. I do it because it'll go on my Permanent Record.

hairpats, laura. sounds like a really rough day in the parenthood.

I can't think of anything boreing, repetative, or hateful ( which was my view of things like spelling and math homework) that I do now , that no one cares about. I can think of household chores that fall in that category, but I do them because if I don't I'm not happy with the state of things. and work - well they pay me to be bored somedays. ( It is so weird to have to ask for more work )

to do homework... I would have needed something more than detention as a negative- because I didn't do a hell of a lot afterschool but read - guess what I would have done in detention. So there would have had to have been some sort of dire consequences at home ( gass money comming out of my allowance for the extra car trips? ) plus some sort of real reward for doing ALL of my homework. Kinda like vw's ipod reward. some large dollar amount to spend at book store - or being allowed to stayup as late as I wanted every friday or saturday for the next quarter...those would have worked for me

I'm such a conformist. I did my homework because they told me to, and because I didn't want any grief about it. At least in school. At university, it was more precisely calculated.

In HS, however, we weren't maintaining a GPA. The homework counted to our grade at the end of the year, but universities only cared about our O and A level results.

I'm such a conformist. I did my homework because they told me to, and because I didn't want any grief about it. At least in school. At university, it was more precisely calculated.

Same here. Plus, it's not like it was terribly onerous.

When I was teaching high school, I counted homework towards the grade, because I thought it was good training for responsibility and meeting deadlines, and because some students can have comprehension of the subject but freeze on the tests. I assigned homework because I thought that a continuum of working on the subject was more beneficial to long-term retention than cramming for a test.

Laura, my sympathies to you. School work always turns into a bone of contention, ever when it is graded. It took my daughter a long time to admit that school was important. It really sank in when she found out that if she wanted to get her GED in Wisconsin, she couldn't do it until her senior class was due to graduate anyway, so she may as well finish out her last year of high school. She even managed to pull in As and Bs; I think she even surprised herself.

As for me, I did well in school to prove I was better than my older brothers. Such a competitive little creep. Once both of them were done with school, I started slacking more. But when my grade in Pre-Calculus dropped to a D, I decided to change my mind and get my grades just for me. Still, I often got As with Unsatisfactory for effort because I was rotten about doing any homework that wasn't graded.

vw, glad to hear you've made it through the day so far. Keep it up!