No, it's shiny! I like to meet new people. They've all got stories...

Kaylee ,'Serenity'


Buffista Music III: The Search for Bach  

There's a lady plays her fav'rite records/On the jukebox ev'ry day/All day long she plays the same old songs/And she believes the things that they say/She sings along with all the saddest songs/And she believes the stories are real/She lets the music dictate the way that she feels.


Amy - Apr 18, 2008 9:06:57 am PDT #7798 of 10003
Because books.

I always thought emo, the way media described it years ago, was bands like Dashboard Confessional. But I could be way wrong.


Ailleann - Apr 18, 2008 9:07:25 am PDT #7799 of 10003
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Popular news media seems to slap the term "emo" on a lot of bands that are listened to by high school students, regardless of their actual musical content. Panic's first album was called "emo," though it was much more techno-inspired, and Fall Out Boy is far closer to punk than "emo."


Atropa - Apr 18, 2008 9:10:26 am PDT #7800 of 10003
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

Popular news media seems to slap the term "emo" on a lot of bands that are listened to by high school students, regardless of their actual musical content.

Yes, this. "emo" has apparently become shorthand for "Those kids today, with their funny hair and their loud music!"


Ailleann - Apr 18, 2008 9:15:14 am PDT #7801 of 10003
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And the media's already started to use terms like "post-emo," which when you can't even clearly list the bands that are in a genre, I don't know how you can say that that genre is now over.


Trudy Booth - Apr 18, 2008 9:38:34 am PDT #7802 of 10003
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

His friend on lead guitar shreds like Van Halen. The rhythm guitarist was airlifted in from a Jersey thrash punk band.

The hugely contrasting guitarists who somehow manage to work beautifully together are part of the legendary early magic that made ears perk up all over the eastern corridor.

Someone who understands guitars more than I can will be better able to explain the technicalities of that.


Fred Pete - Apr 18, 2008 9:46:18 am PDT #7803 of 10003
Ann, that's a ferret.

My understanding is that -- call it "genuine emo" or "original emo"? -- was a subdivision of punk. The main reason they were an offshoot was that their lyrical content more than musical style.

What's now called emo is probably more indie pop, with an emphasis on love songs and possibly being more suitable for slow dancing than most of what's out there these days.


smonster - Apr 18, 2008 9:49:03 am PDT #7804 of 10003
We won’t stop until everyone is gay.

Death Cab for Cutie was frequently labeled emo, although I would sooner label them lyrically-intelligent indie pop.

Generally, when people say emo, what they mean is "whiny music that sucks." I tend to associate that term, outside of media labeling, with young men (primarily) who want to disparage others' choices in music and emotional sensitivity in general. Hence the fact that it is applied to bands as divergent as MCR and DCFC.

I also associate it with homophobia and misogyny, due to the fact that, by aforementioned macho youth, the word "emo" is frequently coupled with "pussy" or "fag."

See Projekt Revolution and that whole mess.


Ailleann - Apr 18, 2008 9:50:42 am PDT #7805 of 10003
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I don't know a whole lot about guitars, but Frank Iero (the thrash punk one) has said that both he and Ray Toro think of ideas that the other never would. If you get a band of five guys who all listen to exactly the same music, you can pretty much guess what their music is going to sound like. But when your influences are coming from wildly different directions (Queen, Morrissey, The Smiths, The Misfits, Black Flag, Iron Maiden, etc. etc.) the outcome of how you put them together is going to be much more of a grab bag.


Atropa - Apr 18, 2008 9:58:34 am PDT #7806 of 10003
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

I also associate it with homophobia and misogyny, due to the fact that, by aforementioned macho youth, the word "emo" is frequently coupled with "pussy" or "fag."

Bingo. I have always seen "emo" used as a derogatory term. Which is part of the reason I don't have a clear understanding of what music genre really could be called emo.

The homophobia & misogyny bring up another thing: most of the bandom bands are fiercely against both, and frequently say things (in interviews, on stage) to change people's perceptions. (Frank Iero's "homophobia is dumb" t-shirt, the ever evolving stagegay aspect of MCRs live shows, Gerard ranting about other band's roadies trying to get girls to flash them for backstage passes.)


juliana - Apr 18, 2008 9:58:50 am PDT #7807 of 10003
I’d be lying if I didn’t say that I miss them all tonight…

I also associate it with homophobia and misogyny, due to the fact that, by aforementioned macho youth, the word "emo" is frequently coupled with "pussy" or "fag."

See Projekt Revolution and that whole mess.

As a note, emo kids are getting beat up and threatened in Mexico: [link]

And Ailleann nails it in the descriptor of MCR's style. (Another side note, a British magazine described Toro as looking like he was airlifted in from another band at a moment's notice.)