Yeah - "Pavement were Fall copyists" is Rock Snob Recieved Opinion #1245, between "Band of Gypsies is the best Hendrix Album because it is the funkiest" and "Neil Young is the sole '60s hero who really got Punk".

Sarcasm how? They obviously loved both those bands.

I meant more like "Pavement were REM fans, and in other news, the sun rose in the east."

Damn you, Goth intern!

Snork! I almost want to tag this, but I'm still lovin' my ice weasels.

Anyone interested in a free download from the not yet released TV on the Radio album can get it from their label's site: Dry Drunk Emperor.

It's really good - and doesn't sound too similar to their last album at all.

The last few weeks I have been weeding the 6000 songs on my iPod with absolutely no sentimentality or respect toward the sanctity of complete albums. I'd wanted to do this for a while and I am glad I finally started. It's liberating and fun. It can't be overstated how much this thing has totally changed what I listen to and how I listen to it.

This is sarcasm, right?

Just jokingly stating the obvious. I don't think Pavement are Fall copyists, though, of course, they've never been afraid of acknowledging their influences. Another video they showed was "Teenage Riot" by SY, and it's nothing but a big lovefest for their heroes including a snippet of Mark E., Pee Wee Herman, Tom Waits and Patti Smith.

between "Band of Gypsies is the best Hendrix Album because it is the funkiest"

Really? I don't know anybody that makes that claim these days. Not since the Black Panthers stopped their school lunch program. Mitch Mitchell is the fleet-handed, Elvin Jones lovin' man!

and "Neil Young is the sole '60s hero who really got Punk".

Grace Slick did a show in Germany in full Gestapo outfit and a Hitler-moustache. She did another show in blackface. Grace was wacky.

From Nerve's Neil Gaiman/Dave McKean interview:

Nerve: I certainly remember watching [Labyrinth and Dark Crystal].
Neil: What I'm hoping that the you of today, the eleven- and twelve-year-old girls, the fourteen- and fifteen-year-olds, maybe they'll fantasize about strange beardy men with rubber masks in the same way that your generation fantasized about the incredible, peculiar bulge in David Bowie's trousers.

Nerve: Excuse me?
Neil: We once saw the unedited rough cut of Labyrinth, which included a ten-minute cut of "Dance the Magic Dance," which was the single most embarrassing thing—
Dave: That David Bowie has ever committed to film.
Neil: We were amazed it was so tightly edited to the two-and-a-half not-embarrassing minute routine that you see.

I don't know anybody that makes that claim these days.

I won't make it either, but I will say that BoG's "Machine Gun" is as good as anything in his ouevre. (The two versions on Live at Fillmore East are good, but don't even start to measure up. There's a reason why that take was the issued one. Not clear why they left off "Hear My Train a Comin'" though.)

I can never think about "Band of Gypsys" without thinking of "King Suckerman" and Rasheed and Marcus fighting about it being in Rock or Soul. Which is probably the sort of thing that kept a Music thread open for a year without my making a meaningful contribution to it, actually.

Oh come on, joe, I thought for sure I'd get you talking about Mitch Mitchell with that bait.

I hate to shred whatever iota of indie cred I have left, but I never have been all that into The Fall.

Is there one of their albums I should listen to in order to "get it?"

Is there one of their albums I should listen to in order to "get it?"

I like This Nation's Saving Grace. "Cruiser's Creek" is a toe-tapper..uh, and it's added on the reissue.