So many new messages!

I must have missed why we need Pig songs - but I have some I haven't seen mentioned yet:

Pork and Beef - The Coup
A Big Fan of the Pigpen - Guided by Voices
Pigs That Ran Straightaway Into The Water, Triumph Of - The Mountain Goats
Wang Dang Pig - The Soft Boys

IoMusicN, on Saturday I witnessed about a dozen kids from the ages of 6 - 16 perform The Wall (album, not movie, though it was clear some kids had been studying the movie for performance suggestions) in its almost entirety. I was there because I did some freelance PR for Chicago's new School of Rock. The kids performed Saturday and Sunday at Schubas, and both shows were sold out. It was at times adorable, at times pretty rockin' and at times too embarrasingly emotive for me to watch.

on Saturday I witnessed about a dozen kids from the ages of 6 - 16 perform The Wall

Whoa! Also...tina!

I've recently been cogitating what's the ultimate teen angst album.

Currently it's a tie between The Wall and Violent Femmes (s/t).

Hec! I am pimping both your and CI's books to music nerds like a crazy person. When are they going to be available again?

Currently it's a tie between The Wall and Violent Femmes (s/t).

Fo' sure. Personally, I would go with the VFs, but only because I was much angstier when I discovered it (13ish) than when I went through my brief Pink Floyd period (16). At 16, I was less angsty because I was In Love.

It can't really be 2:30, can it? Bed for me!!

When are they going to be available again?

My manuscript is due in April, so I expect it'll be out in Fall of 2007. Which makes it, of course, a perfect stocking stuffer for the Tom Waits fan in your life. Corwood's still working on his, so I expect he'll be roughly on the same schedule.

Currently it's a tie between The Wall and Violent Femmes (s/t).

I myself would give the nod to The Wall as all the angsty teens I knew were listening to it, and when they found out you were/wanted to be angsty too, that was the album they recommended to you. The Violent Femmes were angsty too, but they were a sort of jaded angst. I found the Femmes a few years later in life when we were all angsty and had been for a while, and all had a sort of been there, angsted that attitude about everything, and the Femmes seemed to reflect that in their music. I would pick Floyd over the Femmes for Ultimate Teen Angst album because Floyd was what we listened to when we were angsty for angst's sake, and the Femmes were for later, when we were angsty because it was cool.

See I think of VF as teenaged angst, and PF as later college stoner angst. Of course, The Wall is what I was forced to listen to by roommate in frosh year everytime she was hungover, which was often.

What about the Smiths, and the Cure? They were the angst music of my teenagedom.

What about the Smiths, and the Cure?

I think VF and PF are more universal, but I am Sue - these were the ultimate angst bands of my teen years.

Specifically, Louder than Bombs (which, yes, yes, I know is not an actual album) and The Head on the Door.

Oh, lord - the angst!! I listened to them every.single.night. on my headphones and thought about death and sadness. Rock on!!

Also - Sasha Frere Jones is as addicted to The Thermals as I am: [link]

I am seeing them on the 28th of Feb. Woot!

What about the Smiths, and the Cure? They were the angst music of my teenagedom.

Fair point. I think you could include Depeche Mode in there too.

Fair point. I think you could include Depeche Mode in there too

Especially if you go straight to listening to "Blasphemous Rumors" and "Lie to Me" over and over and over. For my angst-filled 20s, it was "Pictures of You" by The Cure, and It'll End In Tears by This Mortal Coil. In fact, when I was dumped by the Boy Before Pete, one of my best friends came to my apartment and confiscated that all of my CDs by The Cure and This Mortal Coil, informing me that I'd get them back later.

I ... I wish I liked The Wall more. Lyrically and musically, I think it's brilliant. I just can't stand Roger Water's voice. (Um, er, he IS the vocalist, right? Because I can never remember who it is singing, just that I don't like their voice very much.)

I hadn't listened to The Wall for almost 20 years when I finally bought the CD. I'm surprised that I still like it as much as I do. I listened the crap out of that album in Jr. high and high school. Then my freshman year of college I bought all their other albums and jumped on the "The early stuff with Syd was better" bandwagon. Then I got into the Velvet Underground and post-punk stuff so I became rather snobby about Pink Floyd's '70s and '80s output.

I also discovered that I still like Animals, and Hec's book made me buy The Final Cut. yep - still love that one too....

Um... but '70s Floyd is another one of those things I just can't objectively judge anymore.

eta: I should point out that in high school I knew no one who listened to any punk, college rock, post-punk or whatever. I didn't hear the VF until I was a sophomore in college. Probably the first punk song I heard (and fell in love with) was "London Calling" - my favorite local AOR station played that a lot.