They did? I can't find it on the NPR site.

Sorry, it was actually this afternoon on Weekend America (near the bottom) [link]

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Split Lip fan? (Of course you are - you're a Lawrencian, right?) You heard that Wayne left the band in June then I take it? Kinda sucks. But they used to be a threesome so it's not that weird that they are once again. They won't be at Winfield this year - and they weren't last year either. Also kinda sucks. I am excited to see Drakkar Sauna though - have you seen them? They play the Replay and Jackpot's a lot (or used to). They are not Split Lippian at all but they are fantastic.

Yeah, I heard about Wayne. It's a shame because I really liked the fullness of their sound with four (and how amazing it is that their sound is as full as it is without percussion). Haven't seen Drakkar Sauna. What're they like?

Didn't know they won't be at Winfield. That's a damn shame. I'm substantially less sure I'll go now (which was work-permitting in the first place).

Also, until a month ago I lived two blocks from both the Replay and Jackpot. Talk about location.

I just finished listening to the Split Lip live album that was recorded at the Bottleneck on New Year's Eve 2003. I love listening to live albums that I was in the audience for - one of those noisemakers is me - I'm sure of it!

I think one of my friends was at that show. He was certainly at at least one other Split Lip New Year's show. I keep meaning to get in on that.

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and how amazing it is that their sound is as full as it is without percussion

Well - Jeff's stitchgiver (stand up bass made out of a gas tank for non split lip fans) helps a lot. But yeah, the speed and full sound is what make them so unbelievably good live. The worst part of losing Wayne isn't that they will lack a mandolin, but that they lost their best songwriter.

Drakkar Sauna. What're they like?

Kind of undescribable. They were my "stump Hec and Jon" band on our Buffistamix trade so long ago. They are like a vaudevillian old timey kinda rockin duo thing. You just have to hear it - there a lots of good mp3s on their lawrence.com page: [link]

Didn't know they won't be at Winfield. That's a damn shame. I'm substantially less sure I'll go now (which was work-permitting in the first place).

Winfield is SO much more than split lip. If you've never been - I can't recommend it enough. But if you're gonna camp get there early (Thur at least) or have friends save you a spot - it gets really crowded by Fri. night. Imagine 30,000 laid back folks camping and drinking beer along a goreous river and about 85% of them are really decent bluegrass musicians who just play 24/7. It's a guaranteed good time.

Also, until a month ago I lived two blocks from both the Replay and Jackpot. Talk about location.

Ah Lawrence. I lived in East Lawrence (10th and Rhode Island, 11th and New York) through most of my time there minus the two regrettable years at 14th and Tennessee. (yes RIGHT next to Bullwinkles - I was wicked poor).

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Sorry, it was actually this afternoon on Weekend America

Aaah. Found it and heard it. And I agree with the reviewer -- it's not a very organic sound. And it's a little off-putting. If she were more organic, she would sound like Jolie Holland. If she could smooth out her voice some, she would sound like Erin McKeown. And while she doesn't and therefore is different and distinct, it's still off-putting.

I really want to like this album, I do. But at least I only paid $10.87 for it on iTunes, not the $20 Tower is charging nowadays for a DRM-crippled "CD."

(And look, it's not the DRM I'm mad about, it's the way the DRM destroys my fair-use right to rip the tracks to MP3 or whatever format and listen to them on my iPod.)

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It's the DMCA that's a really piece of shit. I've got two CD players with Digital outputs and I have a ProTools editing system, so I can do a real time digital dump of even copy protected tracks and then compress them any way I please. However, with the DMCA since those CD's have copy protection on them, I'm breaking the law by using my digital connection to circumvent the protection. I think it's even a felony. Fair use doesn't even come into play. The DMCA is a steaming pile of feces that need to be torn down.

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not the $20 Tower is charging nowadays for a DRM-crippled "CD."

I was able to rip the promo copy WMBR got....

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Ah Lawrence. I lived in East Lawrence (10th and Rhode Island, 11th and New York) through most of my time there minus the two regrettable years at 14th and Tennessee. (yes RIGHT next to Bullwinkles - I was wicked poor).

You have no idea how hard I'm laughing right now--I live at 14th and Tennessee. Southeast corner, across from Bullwinkle's. Lived right by 10th and Rhode Island previous to this. Bullwinkle's isn't so bad now since they lost their liquor license. They can only be open until midnight.

Your description of Winfield intrigues me. If my friends are still going, I may be sold on it myself.

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I live at 14th and Tennessee. Southeast corner, across from Bullwinkle's.

That's CRAZY - I lived at 1409 Tenn (which in my mind is the southeast corner but I could be wrong) from 2001-2003. People don't understand when I say Chicago seems SO quiet in comparison. Until you've heard 45 frat boys doing the rock chalk chant directly outside your window at full drunken volume w/random fireworks accompanying you don't really know what loud is.

Lived right by 10th and Rhode Island previous to this

I was at 1001 Rhode Island (red brick house right on the corner) from 1994-1997ish. Long before your time I'm sure (when I first moved in the Replay wasn't even there!) - great great neighborhood.

If my friends are still going, I may be sold on it myself.

Well - if you manage to get there and feel like taking a hike to meet a buffista: I camp at the FAR east end of the Pecan grove. Basically you follow 14th Ave. until you get to electric station (where it says "off limits" on this map, take a right, walk a ways and go down a small embankment and we are THE LAST campsite along the train tracks (or actually the levee - the tracks are on the other side of the levee). If you go and manage to walk down there and ask for Tina people should know who you are talking about. But more importantly if you do go don't miss the Wilders - they are at Stage 1 (the really big one) at 10:30 on Sat. night and they are amazing. After that it's all about Stage 5 which is in the campground - leave the official fairgrounds area out of the east exit and follow the crowd until you see all the giant parachutes in the trees and find a spot - stage 5 on Sat. night is not to be missed.

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1409 would have to be on the other side of the Sunflower House, the third house from the corner. I'm 1400 (oh noes my address on teh intarweb), on the corner proper. Next time I walk by I'll have to have a look. And you're so very right about the damn fraternity brahs--they get up to some serious volume out there. I actually hope we don't make the Final Four this year, which statement would get you beheaded in many parts of this town.

Anyone other'n the Wilders you'd recommend I bone up on prior to the show? I like to do my research. It's how I got into Okkervil River before they opened for the Decemberists, which decision I applaud myself for daily. Easily one of the greatest "new" bands I've heard this year.

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1409 would have to be on the other side of the Sunflower House, the third house from the corner.

That was a typo. I lived in 1400 Tenn. Seriously - apt. # 4 on the second floor. Holy shit - if you are in #4 I am going to have to freak out a little. If that is your apt., and the cabinets are still blue - that was me! They were a hideous checkerboard black and white (to match the tile) when I moved in. No matter what apt. you have in that bldg. I can tell you some unsavory story about it I'm sure (we all kind of got to know each other what with the abnormally thin walls).

Anyone other'n the Wilders you'd recommend I bone up on prior to the show?

Not really. The mainstages at Winfield are not why you go, in fact I would recommend not really spending a ton of time at stages 1-4 - it's outside the fairgrounds at stages 5-8 in the Pecan grove you want to check out and that could be just about anyone. Jeff & Vida are always good. Last year there was a young band called Pagosa Hotstrings that was amazing. But it's kind of all about the surprises at Winfield.

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