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Can anyone here outline the proof for why the square root of 8 is irrational? I've written one, I'm just not sure it's right.
Damn. It's been ages since I've seen a proof like that. IIRC, you start by assuming that the square root of 8 is rational, and then eventually you show that this leads to a contradiction.
It'd be fun to see if I could remember / come up with the proof myself, but I'm a bit busy at the moment.
eta: Assume the square root is rational. So you can express the root as a fraction a/b. a/b can be reduced to lowest terms, so assume that it is.
Then a miracle occurs. I forget what you do next....
Finally, you can show that a/b is not in lowest terms, thus the contradiction completes the proof.
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Can anyone here outline the proof for why the square root of 8 is irrational? I've written one, I'm just not sure it's right.
Emily, is there a reason it's 8, of all numbers? I've only done it with 2.
With 2, you assume that its root is rational, m/n, and that both m and n have no common factors. Therefore, its square is m²/n²=2, so m²=2*n².
Now there are several possible cases for m and n: If both m and n are odd, their squares, both odd as well, can't have a factor of 2 between them, and we get a contradiction. If m is odd and n is even we get the same contradiction.
If m is even then its square is a multiplication of 4. n can't also be even (because if it were, 2 would have been a common factor between m and n and we ruled that out already), so n can only be odd. But a square of an odd number is an odd number and multiplying it by 2 won't give a number that is a multiplication of 4, so we get a contradiction again.
All possibilities led to a contradiction, when we assumed that the square root of 2, m/n, is rational, so it has to be irrational. QED.
With 8 I think there should only be slight correction in the last part, the "m is even" part, right?
[Edit: geekily enough, I think I wrote the whole thing down just so that I could write "QED" at the bottom. We only ever got to write the Hebrew initials of "what was to proove", so I never got to write "QED" on anything. Until now. Thanks, Emily!]
Ah yes, Nilly knows it.
Good times... good times....
Can you just prove that the square root of 2 is irrational, and since the square root of 8 = 2 * square root of 2 that means that the square root of 8 is also irrational?
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I'm happy with my proof that sqrt(5) and sqrt(6) are irrational. With 8, I've gone with the following:
a/b=sqrt(8)
a=sqrt(8)b
a*a=8b*b=2*4b*b
Now the 4 in there means a*a is divisible by 4, so a is divisible by 2.
But the other 2 means that a*a/4 is also divisible by 2, and since it's not a square, a must be divisible by another 2, so a must be divisible by 2*2, so a=4c
4c=sqrt(8)b
16c*c=8b*b
2c*c=b*b so b must be divisible by 2 as well, so a and b weren't respectively prime. I'm just not sure if the part where I explain why a must be divisible by 4 is clear enough.
Then again, she may just mark me down for not doing it in the Greek style (oh god, she can't, can she? Because that's a totally different proof, involving lengths of lines, and... and she didn't teach us that, so no. Whew).
[Edit: geekily enough, I think I wrote the whole thing down just so that I could write "QED" at the bottom. We only ever got to write the Hebrew initials of "what was to proove", so I never got to write "QED" on anything. Until now. Thanks, Emily!]
Ooh! What are the Hebrew initials and what are the words they stand for? (My Abstract Algebra teacher was explaining on Tuesday about the use of a little box to signal the end of the proof, but couldn't remember what "QED" stood for. Shocking!)
The thing is, she showed us the proof for sqrt(2) (which I already knew and used to use as a sort of meditation to get to sleep oh god am I geeky enough yet?), but wanted us to do it for these three others.