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Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Allyson - Sep 21, 2005 11:41:20 am PDT #9664 of 10002
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

oy. dumbass on craigslist posting about how credit checks are going to cause the downfall of society and credit card companies always lose his payments on purpose so they can get late fees and that is why he is going to be homeless and you people all suck for doing credit checks.

Dude. I know. The world is totally out to get you.

goes back to apartment hunting


sarameg - Sep 21, 2005 11:43:45 am PDT #9665 of 10002

That reminds me...I should have gotten my statement already. Guess I should look it up online and send in a check....


msbelle - Sep 21, 2005 11:46:31 am PDT #9666 of 10002
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

reminds me to go list things on craigslist.


Wolfram - Sep 21, 2005 11:54:13 am PDT #9667 of 10002
Visilurking

eta: Never mind -- I think bon's cleared it up for me.

I think you're asking whether the level of harm must be foreseeable. IOW, if it was foreseeable that they'd hurt her feelings, does that meet the foreseeable requirement if she then goes ahead and offs herself. My gut is to say that the level of harm should be foreseeable, but in tort law if your plaintiff is Mr. Glass and you push him down and he breaks every bone in his body, you're liable even if that harm wasn't foreseeable. So, I'm not sure. Bon bon?


Allyson - Sep 21, 2005 11:56:52 am PDT #9668 of 10002
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

Perhaps in this case they hectored and goaded her mercilessly; perhaps it was obvious that she was mentally unstable. So it could be reasonably foreseeable that a mentally unstable woman would commit suicide if forced to do a horrible thing.

Hm. This would make the internets a most liable place to be. Someone should warn the good folks at Fandom Wank.


dw - Sep 21, 2005 11:57:49 am PDT #9669 of 10002
Silence means security silence means approval

The barometric pressure inside Rita dropped from 934mb to 923mb in approximately an hour and forty minutes.

That's an impossible statistic to fathom, because no one remembers a hurricane shedding 11mb in 1:40, ever. Charley shed 10mb in two hours last year, right when it did the big bump from cat 1 to cat 4.

Time to start rooting for shear, or else the west side of Houston is going to be flattened.


Fred Pete - Sep 21, 2005 12:02:54 pm PDT #9670 of 10002
Ann, that's a ferret.

Whether or not the harm suffered was foreseeable is at the crux of a tort case. It would be argued by the producers that they had no way of knowing that she would commit suicide. The plaintiffs would argue that you take your victim as you find him or her; the exact mechanism by which your harmful act results in injury is irrelevant as long as you could have foreseen that you would cause harm.

Long time since I've dealt with tort law, but I'd think that proving causation would be the hard part.

But how did the Jenny Jones case a few years back come out? I'm thinking of the one where the twist was that it was a man with a secret crush on the male guest, adn the crushee shot and killed the crusher a few days later. Didn't the show get found liable because they basically created the situation and then dumped the people involved back into daily life?


Nutty - Sep 21, 2005 12:03:51 pm PDT #9671 of 10002
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

most tort cases involve defendants who *didn't* foresee the harm they caused (that's why it's a tort and not a crime), but they should have.

I think there are lots and lots of excellent lawsuits out there waiting to happen, based on that stupid Sci Fi "reality" show where people got the pants scared off them before discovering it was a fake. I mean, there had to be at least one person who, on being offered the "You'll be on TV! That means you can't sue us" contract, just tore it up and stalked away, right? Right?

People who scare/humiliate/play tricks on me get my foot in their ass, which might be a separate part of tort law. Or, criminal law, although I would like to state for the record that any and all podiatric ass-insertions are totally heat-of-the-moment, "A reasonable person would say that you feared for your life," plea-bargain down to a parking ticket sections of criminal law.


Sean K - Sep 21, 2005 12:03:54 pm PDT #9672 of 10002
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

Mustang, Corvette, Mini top lists.

I'm betting that with the Mustang or the Corvette, the sheer fact of own one provides so much satisfaction, that as long as the car doesn't explode regularly, or cost the price of a whole other car every year or so in maintenance, you're going to give it high marks.


Fred Pete - Sep 21, 2005 12:04:34 pm PDT #9673 of 10002
Ann, that's a ferret.

I mean, there had to be at least one person who, on being offered the "You'll be on TV! That means you can't sue us" contract, just tore it up and stalked away, right? Right?

I'd certainly be tempted.