I want to torture you. I used to love it, and it's been a long time. I mean, the last time I tortured someone, they didn't even have chainsaws.

Angel ,'Chosen'


Natter .38 Special  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


libkitty - Sep 20, 2005 10:59:07 am PDT #9331 of 10002
Embrace the idea that we are the leaders we've been looking for. Grace Lee Boggs

I'm so sorry about your mom Polgara.


Kate P. - Sep 20, 2005 11:04:37 am PDT #9332 of 10002
That's the pain / That cuts a straight line down through the heart / We call it love

I don't know much about REM's recent stuff, but I have a great fondness for Up. It's so shimmery and sad.


dw - Sep 20, 2005 11:08:02 am PDT #9333 of 10002
Silence means security silence means approval

Honestly, I think they owe their entire careers to Radio Free Europe, which was a great song--twenty some-odd years ago. And probably It's the End of the World as We Know It (And I Feel Fine); The One I Love; Orange Crush; and possibly Man on the Moon (although I got tired of that one), are all that stand between them and irrelevancy. They make quintessential college music.

Reckoning, honestly, is one of my favorite albums, ever ever ever. If I had to choose one album out of my Desert Island Discs, it would probably be that one. Susan was singing hymns to get Annabel to go to sleep, I was singing "(Don't Go Back To) Rockville."

And you skipped over it. Completely. Because it's irrelevant?


dw - Sep 20, 2005 11:09:20 am PDT #9334 of 10002
Silence means security silence means approval

I'd think you needed re-education, but if after plentiful exposure to the good stuff you still didn't like it, I'd conclude you were just missing the right gene to appreciate it and not bug you as long as you were clear that Riverdance is Celtic very very Lite.

"Stand" is REM very very Lite.


Frankenbuddha - Sep 20, 2005 11:09:31 am PDT #9335 of 10002
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

There are a handful of songs from the post-Document era that I like, but I don't like any of them anywhere near as much as I like (insert almost any song off of any of those albums, especially if it's off of Fables of the Reconstruction).

Exactly how I feel (down to being large with the Fables love, which was the only album I saw them live on tour for, especially "Feeling Gravity's Pull" and "Old Man Kinsey" e.g. the really, REALLY moody songs). But I should probably cull those songs at some point, since I have everything up to before Bill Berry quit. It would probably make a decent anthology tape.


dw - Sep 20, 2005 11:19:18 am PDT #9336 of 10002
Silence means security silence means approval

There are a handful of songs from the post-Document era that I like, but I don't like any of them anywhere near as much as I like (insert almost any song off of any of those albums, especially if it's off of Fables of the Reconstruction).

Fables is always the one people never liked, but I liked it. It's pretty clear that they were all going through depressions at the time. Buck's guitar has never been more jingle-jangle or majestic. And Stipe was never more mumbly.

The first four albums (+ Chronic Town) are foundational pieces of college rock, what came to become known as "alternative," and even modern pop music.

I'm not sure why I haven't managed to replace my worn out tape copies with CDs, except perhaps a lingering distaste for the recent output.

That's what half.com is for. Or you can ask politely and secretly and someone might be willing to make you a compliation CD or two of early REM.


msbelle - Sep 20, 2005 11:20:47 am PDT #9337 of 10002
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

a bunch of us in the office just took an ice cream break. YAY! and now this public service announcement.

Reminder today is Tuesday, it is dollar scoop night each Tuesday from 6-9 at Baskin Robbins.


Topic!Cindy - Sep 20, 2005 11:21:09 am PDT #9338 of 10002
What is even happening?

I'm probably between five and ten years older than you, dw. Our relevants don't have to be the same where music is concerned (and really, I'm so out of season on anything new, you probably don't want them to be).


Susan W. - Sep 20, 2005 11:23:50 am PDT #9339 of 10002
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

"Stand" is REM very very Lite.

Duly noted. Even if it is kinda catchy.

And you know, dear, if you really want to use your musical mojo for good, instead of subliminally trying to turn me into an REM fan, you could always help me track down more stuff like all those songs I love but have no idea where to place in terms of Musical Trends and If You Like A You Should Try B. E.g., I wouldn't mind a whole CD of stuff that pings me like "1952 Vincent Black Lightning," "Fairytale of New York," and "I Am a Man of Constant Sorrow," but I don't have your encyclopedic knowledge to even begin to know where to look.


Ginger - Sep 20, 2005 11:25:33 am PDT #9340 of 10002
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

I'm so sorry about your mother, Polgara. Strength to you and your sister.