It's hard to believe that the Red Socks broke the Royals winning streak.
We'd be dead. Can't get paid if you're dead.
Mal ,'Serenity'
Natter .38 Special
Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.
Gudanov - Aug 24, 2005 5:12:47 am PDT #795 of 10002
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Nutty - Aug 24, 2005 5:16:16 am PDT #796 of 10002
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."
It's hard to believe that the Red Sox broke the Royals winning streak.
I know, right? Shocker.
I am still working out what HGTV genius decided that baseball stadia need water features. It's so very Disney.
Gudanov - Aug 24, 2005 5:26:59 am PDT #797 of 10002
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Fountains are a big deal in Kansas City, there are a lot of fountains. Thus, fountains in the baseball park.
§ ita § - Aug 24, 2005 5:28:51 am PDT #798 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
If God is all-powerful and there is at least one entity known to be able to exist outside of the/a universe, then he must be able to create another one.
You don't need the middle bit, do you? Even if there isn't an entity outside the universe, he's not all powerful if he can't make one.
Saying he leaves time until last doesn't mean anything where time doesn't exist.
Why yes, which explains my cranial pain.
However, in order to parse the idea of the universe being created, we are applying time to the scenario, just to make it work. So there's cheating there already.
But, if God is all powerful, he should be able to do things that make my head hurt.
Any god that interests me is sufficiently uneffable that I never hope to get it, no matter how many axioms or prophets or holy books. Or they're one of the soap-operatic pantheon types.
Gudanov - Aug 24, 2005 5:31:41 am PDT #799 of 10002
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No. "God created the universe" is not the same as "God crafted all events". It would be the case in a deterministic universe, but that begs the question.
I would say again this is assuming time outside the universe when time is a component of the universe. How can God start off the Universe and let events happen as they will if there is no concept of time outside the universe?
Theodosia - Aug 24, 2005 5:36:20 am PDT #800 of 10002
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"
Hey! Is that a cat over there?
Calli - Aug 24, 2005 5:42:09 am PDT #801 of 10002
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs
Is that a cat over there?
Nope. Flying spagetti monster. Still kinda cute, though, in a noodly way.
DXMachina - Aug 24, 2005 5:43:12 am PDT #802 of 10002
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.
I am still working out what HGTV genius decided that baseball stadia need water features. It's so very Disney.
Disney actually copied them when they remodeled whatever they call the stadium in Anaheim now. Royals Stadium is a beautiful ballpark, and was very different from the cookie cutter stadiums that were built immediately before it.
flea - Aug 24, 2005 5:45:58 am PDT #803 of 10002
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I spent a looong looong time reading this discussion wondering why people kept invoking the Victorian poet Algernon Swinburne.
Why no, I have not the philosophic mind.
Also, my work it is to kill today.
Gudanov - Aug 24, 2005 5:54:43 am PDT #804 of 10002
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Is that a cat over there?
Is that Schrodinger's cat?