You got all kinds of learnin' and you made me look the fool without tryin', and yet here I am with a gun to your head. That's 'cause I got people with me. People who trust each other, who do for each other, and ain't always lookin' for the advantage.

Mal ,'Our Mrs. Reynolds'


Natter .38 Special  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Kathy A - Sep 15, 2005 1:48:34 pm PDT #7948 of 10002
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

The speech doesn't start until 9:00 EST, right after Survivor.


Connie Neil - Sep 15, 2005 1:51:24 pm PDT #7949 of 10002
brillig

Was just reading the current Newsweek coverage of Katrina and how Bush can save his ass. Saw this line (roughly) "Katrina has the potential to give Bush his own only-Nixon-could-go-to-China moment."

That phrase, "only Nixon could go to China", only occurs in Star Trek: The Undiscovered Country, doesn't it? Has geekery permeated so far as to appear as standard references in major news weeklies? I'm feeling terribly pop-culture-knowing at the moment.


Liese S. - Sep 15, 2005 1:52:34 pm PDT #7950 of 10002
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

Ha. Hahahahaha. I dunno what his ratings will be, even with that lead-in.


Daisy Jane - Sep 15, 2005 1:56:46 pm PDT #7951 of 10002
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."

Was just reading the current Newsweek coverage of Katrina and how Bush can save his ass. Saw this line (roughly) "Katrina has the potential to give Bush his own only-Nixon-could-go-to-China moment."

Oh for crap's sake.


Gus - Sep 15, 2005 2:09:55 pm PDT #7952 of 10002
Bag the crypto. Say what is on your mind.

"Katrina has the potential to give Bush his own only-Nixon-could-go-to-China moment."

That is just obscene.


Matt the Bruins fan - Sep 15, 2005 2:12:59 pm PDT #7953 of 10002
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

What would his version be? "Only Bush could flush a 3-century-old city that's withstood fire, plague, and war down the toilet?"


brenda m - Sep 15, 2005 2:16:34 pm PDT #7954 of 10002
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Saw this line (roughly) "Katrina has the potential to give Bush his own only-Nixon-could-go-to-China moment."

That phrase, "only Nixon could go to China", only occurs in Star Trek: The Undiscovered Country, doesn't it? Has geekery permeated so far as to appear as standard references in major news weeklies? I'm feeling terribly pop-culture-knowing at the moment.

No, it's pretty much a poli-sci trope.

ETA: For those who aren't poli sci geeks, the general thrust is that while Democrats or internationalists in general might have wanted to re-open relations with China, it would have been political suicide. (Soft on communism, appeasers, yadda.) Nixon, with his history of being an all-round hard-ass, thus had a kind of "statement against interest" credibility that allowed him to do it - no one could ever accuse him of being soft, so if he's doing it, it must be critical.

If Bush were a very different man, and this had had a very different effect on him, it could be true. People have speculated about things like a New Deal style works program, etc., a chance to reverse course on the environmental ransacking we've all grown so attached to, etc., which DifferentBush might be able to push through a DifferentRepublicanParty in a way no Dem ever could. But he's not, and it won't.


vw bug - Sep 15, 2005 2:40:41 pm PDT #7955 of 10002
Mostly lurking...

DX, are you around?


Gus - Sep 15, 2005 3:00:09 pm PDT #7956 of 10002
Bag the crypto. Say what is on your mind.

If Bush comes out ahead on Katrina ...

The really horrible thing is, he could.


DXMachina - Sep 15, 2005 3:07:38 pm PDT #7957 of 10002
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.

I around, vw, turn on your IM.