Sir? I'd like you to take the helm, please. I need this man to tear all my clothes off.

Zoe ,'Serenity'


Natter .38 Special  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Strega - Sep 14, 2005 7:45:54 pm PDT #7747 of 10002

dw -- Heh. I think you mean, "MY POWERS ARE BEYOND YOUR UNDERSTANDING!"

Sorry, I just love Jake Johannsen.

tommyrot-

How many shows are you recapping at the moment?
Er. Well, I was recapping one. Once this recap goes up I will officially be taking a much-needed break. My brain's all melted.


Strega - Sep 14, 2005 7:51:49 pm PDT #7748 of 10002

I like Peter Davison more than I liked the 5th Doctor

Yeah, that's probably what I really mean. He was fine in the role, but the character was too much of a goody, so Turlough seemed more sympathetic because he was all conflicty.


billytea - Sep 14, 2005 7:56:40 pm PDT #7749 of 10002
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

Yeah, that's probably what I really mean. He was fine in the role, but the character was too much of a goody, so Turlough seemed more sympathetic because he was all conflicty.

It's interesting, the 5th Doctor was definitely a goody-goody, but rewatching I notice just how irritable and peevish he is most of the time. I usually just put it down to having to deal with Adric and/or Tegan, while the other Doctors got useful companions like Jamie or Romana. (Of course, the 6th Doctor got Peri and Mel, and still looked bad by comparison.)


Matt the Bruins fan - Sep 14, 2005 8:05:55 pm PDT #7750 of 10002
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

The Sixth Doctor combined the temperament of a high-strung rock star, the arrogant entitlement of a crooked politician, and the fashion sense of the Child Catcher from Chitty Chitty Bang Bang. Really, he never had a chance...


Strega - Sep 14, 2005 8:06:49 pm PDT #7751 of 10002

Ah, see, I did like Colin Baker. Which I know is not a popular stance. But I liked him because he was such a dick, and I hadn't seen the Doctor that way before. And then around that time I saw some of the 1st Doctor, and he was kind of a jerk, too. At least, as I recall. It's been a long time. But I was interested in seeing how they were going to get him involved in the plot when he didn't want to be.

But I was in high school when I saw those, so I may have found it easier to relate to his put-upon attitude at the time.


dw - Sep 14, 2005 8:08:45 pm PDT #7752 of 10002
Silence means security silence means approval

Oh, I got my custom-made bag from Timbuk2 in the mail today. I like it much.


dw - Sep 14, 2005 8:13:30 pm PDT #7753 of 10002
Silence means security silence means approval

You all are going on Doctor Who, but until last year I'd seen complete story arcs featuring only two -- Baker and Pertwee. That's because that's all the PBS stations in Tulsa, Denver, and Seattle had. And I never was around any fans of the show when I was in the UK (far more Red Dwarf fans).

The Tacoma PBS station briefly showed some First Doctor stories last year, but they have since stopped running Doctor Who altogether.


Strega - Sep 14, 2005 8:13:35 pm PDT #7754 of 10002

the temperament of a high-strung rock star, the arrogant entitlement of a crooked politician, and the fashion sense of the Child Catcher from Chitty Chitty Bang Bang.

This is what I'm saying; no wonder I related.

...Oh, c'mon, you were so thinking it.

(Much admiration for the CCBB reference, though.)


P.M. Marc - Sep 14, 2005 8:18:19 pm PDT #7755 of 10002
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

I mostly find the Sixth Doctor forgettable. But, I've been over that in the last couple of weeks, just in a different thread.

And as much as I like the actor in other things, I hate hate hate hate hate the Fifth Doctor.

I feel an urge to rewatch lots and lots of Doctor Who. Sadly, I don't think Paul would be a fan.

Argh! Damn it, how do you kill a Newsies earworm? I didn't even enjoy the movie, so why the hell did something from it get stuck in my head? I'm trying to beat it down with the Due South theme, but it's not working.


billytea - Sep 14, 2005 8:20:45 pm PDT #7756 of 10002
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

The Sixth Doctor combined the temperament of a high-strung rock star, the arrogant entitlement of a crooked politician, and the fashion sense of the Child Catcher from Chitty Chitty Bang Bang. Really, he never had a chance...

No, you wish he had never had a chance.

Ah, see, I did like Colin Baker. Which I know is not a popular stance. But I liked him because he was such a dick, and I hadn't seen the Doctor that way before. And then around that time I saw some of the 1st Doctor, and he was kind of a jerk, too. At least, as I recall. It's been a long time. But I was interested in seeing how they were going to get him involved in the plot when he didn't want to be.

The 1st Doctor was quite crabby, and certainly high-handedly superior, but he also had the dignity and moral fibre to carry it off. The 6th Doctor just seemed infantile. I still think they just decided that they weren't going to say no to a curly-haired actor surnamed 'Baker'.

That's the thing, the Doctors generally had some sort of fault or failing (arrogance being a common one, and the most forgivable trait of Dr6), but there was usually something heroic or sympathetic to offset it. The 6th Doctor was the only real exception. (No, not entirely true. The 5th Doctor went too far the other way, which made him pretty bland.)

The 6th Doctor isn't helped by having about the worst introduction of any Doctor (The Twin Dilemma, doubly disappointing after the excellent Caves of Androzani), and offhand I can't really think of any adventure of his that really makes the grade (the only noteworthy thing from his tenure was the villain Sil), but the character didn't help either.

Incidentally, Colin Baker appeared once during Peter Davison's tenure, as a Gallifreyan guard. He got to shoot the 5th Doctor in this role. Dr4's future incarnation tried to assist him, Dr5 gets shot by his, and as for Dr6, he spends half of his tenure being sued by his future incarnations for custody. There's a wealth of therapy bills right there.