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Natter .38 Special  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Narrator - Sep 11, 2005 6:46:44 am PDT #6395 of 10002
The evil is this way?

The occupants of the camp cannot leave the camp for any reason. If they leave the camp they may never return. They will be issued FEMA identification cards and "a sum of money" and they will remain within the camp for the next 5 months.

That’s not just happening in Oklahoma. I have a friend in the Nashville area who said that the local Red Cross person is imposing a lot of restrictions like that on locals who want to help some evacuees who will be staying in her town. He/she was turning away job offers, etc. for the evacuees and generally giving the impression that they are to be feared rather than helped.

I guess there will always be a number of narrow-minded "officials" who are -- because of their own prejudices -- in effect sabotaging the relief process.

Narrator, are you all whupped, lately?

Yea.


Topic!Cindy - Sep 11, 2005 6:47:57 am PDT #6396 of 10002
What is even happening?

I'm not convinced. It has been so easy for various individuals to demonize the residents of NO post-hurricane: "why didn't they leave?" "why are they looting?" "why are they shooting at EMS?" that I cannot imagine race not playing a role beforehand.

To be clear, I have seen a lot of racism in the analysis. And I probably want to take back my statement that class had nothing to do with the lack of response. I do think if something of this scale had happened in some place like Aspen or Hilton Head, we'd have seen a more efficient and immediate federal response. To some extent race and social class are too tied together to separate, anyhow, particularly in an urban setting. And expecting city people to even have cars they can hop in for a quick escape ignores huge chunks of any big city, regardless of race.


le nubian - Sep 11, 2005 6:48:47 am PDT #6397 of 10002
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

Dana,

I saw that. Maher was pretty good!


brenda m - Sep 11, 2005 6:55:46 am PDT #6398 of 10002
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

I guess there will always be a number of narrow-minded "officials" who are -- because of their own prejudices -- in effect sabotaging the relief process.

Gah, I hate hearing these stories. On a happier note, I saw a piece yesterday about a "youth leadership camp", some church related thing, that's being used as a shelter outside Atlanta. They've brought in lots of work/career counselors, but also regular camp counselors to try to give the kids an experience that's more like summer camp than refugee camp. And they have a large number of people who are already employed and finding apartments and stuff.


Topic!Cindy - Sep 11, 2005 7:01:40 am PDT #6399 of 10002
What is even happening?

Narrator, are you all whupped, lately?

Yea.

*pet pet*

Today always makes me think of you, you know, and that's not a tease. I saw your posts first at Vanessa's, informing us of the plane(s) hitting the twin towers. I think EverDawn might have posted first, but I saw your post, first.


Jesse - Sep 11, 2005 7:04:17 am PDT #6400 of 10002
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

This American Life had a couple of the people from the EMS convention talking about being turned away from that one bridge by cops with guns. Finally they (white couple with rolly luggage and a few other people) got let in, but the rest of the people with them were still turned away. It just doesn't seem like stuff that would happen in 2005 in the US.

I'm watching Tommy Lee in college instead of doing my own homework. It's way more fun, I tell you what.


Almare - Sep 11, 2005 7:07:45 am PDT #6401 of 10002
"My drink preference does not indicate my sexual preference. "

Timelies

Is it me, or is it that the zoo people are hiring the wrong directors to film Panda porn?

How much money goes into finding out what Panda's find hot? i mean, are these video boring? Its there something the scientists missed? Is the porn really bad? How do you tell if you made bad Panda porn? And my final question, is there someone out there who makes GOOD Panda porn?


Deena - Sep 11, 2005 7:21:28 am PDT #6402 of 10002
How are you me? You need to stop that. Only I can be me. ~Kara

Kara says thank you for the birthday wishes. She was very pleased to have them read to her.


Theodosia - Sep 11, 2005 7:25:29 am PDT #6403 of 10002
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

Um... feels like I should segue into a joke about "What's black and white and humps all over?" but I can't quite make it work. I'm blaming it on the cold medicine.

Did you see where an Appeals Court upheld the right to detain an American citizen indefinitely, without charges and without legal representation on suspicion of being a terrorist? (Mind you, I think it's already obscene if done to a non-citizen.) Detention camps for the displaced is rather in line with that sort of thinking, right?


Scrappy - Sep 11, 2005 7:28:46 am PDT #6404 of 10002
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

Happy Birthday, Trudy!!! Hope yiour day is fabulous!