Mal: How come you didn't turn on me, Jayne? Jayne: Money wasn't good enough. Mal: What happens when it is? Jayne: Well... that'll be an interesting day.

'Serenity'


Natter .38 Special  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


dw - Sep 06, 2005 5:52:45 pm PDT #5099 of 10002
Silence means security silence means approval

Once upon a time records came in four flavors, known by the revolutions per minute required to play them normally -- 16, 33 1/3, 45, 78.

78s were popular from the advent of the Victorola to the rise of the LP, I believe in the 1940s. Old blues, gospel, and jazz 78s are big collector's items.

33 1/3 RPM records were better known as LPs. LPs delivered 20-30 minutes of music per side, compared to the 10-15 minutes or so per side of the 78. Thus, LPs rapidly replaced 78s as the primary means of distributing music. By the 1950s the record companies barely sold 78s. By the 1980s you were hard-pressed to find a record player that had a "78" option.

16 RPM records were meant to deliver even more music on a 12-inch platter than an LP. Problem was that a 16 RPM record was very lo-fi, and the format didn't last all that long. However, it was a lot of fun playing LPs at 16 RPM for the Thurl Ravenscroft-like sound.

And then there were 45s. Two songs, that's all. But dirt cheap. They were the currency of musical youth for years, until the C90 blank tape arrived and the mix arrived.

By the 1970s, tape was starting to replace vinyl. It was more portable (imagine trying to put a turntable in the car) and could hold more music (an LP a side on the C90 tape. Reel-to-reel came first, followed by the 8-track, and finally the cassette. They eroded vinyl sales, but it really wasn't until the CD -- and the ensuing record company push onto the format -- that "killed" vinyl. By the late 80s, new albums were CD and cassette only, not on vinyl. LPs did live on, though, through independent releases and Pearl Jam continuing to print LPs.

And there's a brief lesson in the history of the vinyl record. Hec will be by to correct my mistakes shortly.


tommyrot - Sep 06, 2005 5:56:23 pm PDT #5100 of 10002
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

imagine trying to put a turntable in the car

There were some cars in the late '50s that had in-dash record players (they only played 45s).


dw - Sep 06, 2005 5:58:37 pm PDT #5101 of 10002
Silence means security silence means approval

Plus 78s were made of Bakelite or somesuch brittle plastic.

78s were a lot thicker than LPs. They had to be to endure the speed and force needed to play them without breaking up.

A 78 is very heavy compared to a 45. I can't imagine Glen Miller going around Boulder carrying 10-12 78s and a record player without thinking that he was a really strong man.


Laura - Sep 06, 2005 6:02:18 pm PDT #5102 of 10002
Our wings are not tired.

How I have missed Jon.

eta: I had doubts that TDS could work with this tragic last week. Bless them.


tommyrot - Sep 06, 2005 6:10:22 pm PDT #5103 of 10002
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

eta: I had doubts that TDS could work with this tragic last week. Bless them.

Yes! A ROUS reference!


Kat - Sep 06, 2005 6:13:24 pm PDT #5104 of 10002
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

Okay, Prison Break Question:

Was Michael's plan completely stupid or what? Don't get me wrong, Wentworth Miller is a very pretty man, even though he's not my type. But this show is crazy making!


DavidS - Sep 06, 2005 6:13:34 pm PDT #5105 of 10002
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Hec will be by to correct my mistakes shortly.

Nah, that's fine. Though the 16 RPMs were mostly used for non-musical purposes. Like...teaching typing, or speeches. The business stuff Ple alluded to.


Cass - Sep 06, 2005 6:14:11 pm PDT #5106 of 10002
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

It's just standing over there making a clicking sound and soon I will kill it dead.
Jessica is my sistah in appliance homocidal tendency.


quester - Sep 06, 2005 6:19:02 pm PDT #5107 of 10002
Danger is my middle name, only I spell it R. u. t. h. - Tina Belcher.

So, is this the first new TDS in awhile? I forgot to check to see if it was on last night.


sarameg - Sep 06, 2005 6:22:32 pm PDT #5108 of 10002

Random: 15+year ago a former friend( I haven't been able to find her since Berlin 3 years ago)/ classic N.O. wild child went on many double dates with Harry Connick Jr. and reported him to be a complete and utter gentleman (moreso than the love of her life at the time. She was very impressed with him. ) This, before I had a clue of his fame. I saw the teevee reports, and that just reinsured that opinion. Opportunistic? Sure. Still a good human? Yup.

I needta go to bed. But can't sleep. Ahrg. Maybe offline will help.