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'Objects In Space'


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Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Cashmere - Sep 06, 2005 3:21:33 pm PDT #5045 of 10002
Now tagless for your comfort.

My very favorite part of the McClellan grilling:

Q And you're saying there is not a blame game, but you open the door to the response --

MR. McCLELLAN: I can't tell you that everything you said is factually correct, and they've got -- we've got to look at all the facts. We've got to determine what worked, what didn't work, and apply --

Q Well, what's not working? What's not working in your view right now?

MR. McCLELLAN: -- and apply lessons from that.

Q What do you see that's not working right now? What is not working? Because these people are dying from dysentery now --

MR. McCLELLAN: Well, last week --

Q -- infection now; they're displaced, homes are gone. Does anyone in this administration know anyone that's down there --

MR. McCLELLAN: Well, I think you need to talk to people on the ground --

Q -- beyond Trent Lott?

I so need to find video of this. And play it every Christmas.


Susan W. - Sep 06, 2005 3:26:18 pm PDT #5046 of 10002
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

Is the Daily Show new again tonight?


Nutty - Sep 06, 2005 3:27:04 pm PDT #5047 of 10002
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

I'm personally of the opinion that if you can't talk nice -- and often, people talking politics can't -- then you should talk about the weather. Family gatherings are not a place for screaming argument about people you've never met (unless your name is Bush, and then it is a legitimate family problem ). When family go busting out with inflammatory political arguments, and you're just trying to enjoy their company, it is perfectly legitimate to wield the Iron Wand of Smiting Politeness and ask them to kindly stop mentioning [Rush Limbaugh, Noam Chomsky], or else invite him next time instead of you.

If there is one thing I despise, it is people who make a hobby out of petty feuds. There is no call for glee at crude divisiveness, and stoking of same may justifiably be called rude. (See Iron Wand etc. etc., above.)


Sue - Sep 06, 2005 3:29:18 pm PDT #5048 of 10002
hip deep in pie

The Daily Show is new.


P.M. Marc - Sep 06, 2005 3:33:39 pm PDT #5049 of 10002
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

I'm personally of the opinion that if you can't talk nice -- and often, people talking politics can't -- then you should talk about the weather.

Unless, of course, the problem was sparked by said weather...

My most conservative family members are all Canadian, and not in Alberta. Even my pro-life and very churchy cousin comes across as liberal compared to the US right, and my parents and in-laws are about as blue as blue gets. I'm so glad I never have to deal with the left/right split at the dinner table.

In fact, the worst political thing I have to deal with is filtering out an insane amount of West Wing talk from the in-law side. If I never hear, "It's like they say on the West Wing..." when talking about actual politics ever again, it will be too soon.


Trudy Booth - Sep 06, 2005 3:38:23 pm PDT #5050 of 10002
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

If I never hear, "It's like they say on the West Wing..." when talking about actual politics ever again, it will be too soon.

Of course, if we could get two thoughtful Supreme Court Judges now like they did on the West Wing...


Consuela - Sep 06, 2005 3:50:44 pm PDT #5051 of 10002
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

Oh, god, that White House Press Briefing link is comedy gold.

Especially this:

Does anyone in this administration know anyone that's down there --

MR. McCLELLAN: Well, I think you need to talk to people on the ground --

Q -- beyond Trent Lott?

Heee!


quester - Sep 06, 2005 3:54:11 pm PDT #5052 of 10002
Danger is my middle name, only I spell it R. u. t. h. - Tina Belcher.

Keith Olberman just named Geraldo Rivera the "Worst Person in the World" for the second take thing with the old lady and her dog.

My keyboard is having major spelling problems right now. What's up with that?


Jesse - Sep 06, 2005 3:56:36 pm PDT #5053 of 10002
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

I actually like the fact that my aunt is a not very political Republican, because it means we don't talk about politics at extended family gatherings. Certain members of my family have rage issues, so when it's all Dems and people really get going, it just gives me a headache, frankly.


erikaj - Sep 06, 2005 4:08:50 pm PDT #5054 of 10002
Always Anti-fascist!

I am fucked up because I frequently use "The Wire" and not TWW to make my political points with.(Even though the President being English-speaking means I enjoy TWW more now.) And I do feel like I learn stuff, but whether I could ever apply that note for note is pretty debatable, like the laws on L&O. Stringer Bell might have handled this better than our POTUS. Seriously. Some people do say that the Wire season 3 is analogous to Iraq, but I can't because I suck at analysis, and I'd wind up talking only to Corwood, Gus, and LisaH and boring everyone else