Aren't they something. They're like butterflies, or little pieces of wrapping paper blowing around.

Kaylee ,'Shindig'


Natter .38 Special  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


le nubian - Sep 06, 2005 1:49:21 pm PDT #5017 of 10002
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

Thanks for the link Betsy. About time the Press does their job!


§ ita § - Sep 06, 2005 1:56:02 pm PDT #5018 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

When I first read about this, I thought they were making it up.


Allyson - Sep 06, 2005 2:00:02 pm PDT #5019 of 10002
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

Hey ita, I have exciting news. Where you at? You should call me it's so good.


Sue - Sep 06, 2005 2:02:30 pm PDT #5020 of 10002
hip deep in pie

Oh, ita, it couldn't have been scripted better. I just watched Access hollywood and was a little skeeved the onslaught of celebrities that have descended on the displaced, led by Oprah. (Though you know a rescue mission helmed by Oprah would have gotten the job done.) You know when celebrities set out to do good and they bring cameras, it seems self-serving to me.

On the weekend they showed pictures of Macy Grey volunteering at the Astrodome. But she was dressed down, wearing a Red Cross vest and very low key, just sorting clothes. She wasn't walking through the like she was Jesus. (I am looking at you Jamie Fox.)


msbelle - Sep 06, 2005 2:02:40 pm PDT #5021 of 10002
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

Dear Allyson,

That is taunting. -2 points.

Love, Me.


DavidS - Sep 06, 2005 2:10:09 pm PDT #5022 of 10002
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I have wondered if the "turning away' of supplies was merely that they were redirected, and the rejection of workers or equipments was more of a "not right now, it will clog up the supply line to have to handle everything" but when FEMA cuts phone lines, then there's no benefit of the doubt to be given.

I don't know - if it was an isolated incident, sure, but I've heard too many similar reports. They can't all have misunderstood.

There was a long list at Daily Kos of all the relief efforts that FEMA turned away, or failed to utilize. It's very damning.

Including my favorite: FEMA Urges First Responders Not To Respond.


Kathy A - Sep 06, 2005 2:11:31 pm PDT #5023 of 10002
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

Did Oprah already have her fall "Let's Give the Audience Everything!" show? If not, I'd like to see her donate the items (taxes paid, unlike with the car giveaway) to Katrina survivors.


§ ita § - Sep 06, 2005 2:12:17 pm PDT #5024 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Can you donate with taxes paid? Doesn't that mean more gift?


Kathy A - Sep 06, 2005 2:13:45 pm PDT #5025 of 10002
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

Jesse - Sep 06, 2005 2:14:27 pm PDT #5026 of 10002
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

The cars were a gift, not a donation, so yeah, some cash along with would have helped.