Zoe: What's that, sir? Mal: Freedom, is what. Zoe: No, I meant what's that? Mal: Oh. Yeah. Just step around it. I think something must've been living in here.

'Out Of Gas'


Natter .38 Special  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


§ ita § - Sep 05, 2005 3:37:36 pm PDT #4795 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Billytea, I don't think it's much of a spoiler to say that wasn't recognition.


Betsy HP - Sep 05, 2005 3:38:58 pm PDT #4796 of 10002
If I only had a brain...

Hurricanes have spoilers?


libkitty - Sep 05, 2005 3:39:37 pm PDT #4797 of 10002
Embrace the idea that we are the leaders we've been looking for. Grace Lee Boggs

who were not told where they were going when they got on the plane.

I know it is a dire situation, but this boggles once again. I've been amazed again and again about how people were required to stay, to go, to not come. It's like they're numbers that can be played with.

I see all that is being done for those who got out ahead of time. Students who can attend any school. Car payment extensions. These are good things and I don't say that they shouldn't happen. They should. But it's just one more example of how if you have even a medium amount of money, or family with it, you have options. If you don't, you're just screwed with over and over.


Kat - Sep 05, 2005 3:39:57 pm PDT #4798 of 10002
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

Oh, Tom! An orphan baby rhino! So cute!


Jesse - Sep 05, 2005 3:41:04 pm PDT #4799 of 10002
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

There's your rhino, Kat! Hand-raised and all.


billytea - Sep 05, 2005 3:41:26 pm PDT #4800 of 10002
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

Billytea, I don't think it's much of a spoiler to say

I think it's safe to say that any conversation that starts with "I reckon Jack Bauer's probably lost more than one lover because he insists on changing the safe word on a nightly basis" is not going to generate any commentary on events on the show worth taking seriously, be they past or future.


§ ita § - Sep 05, 2005 3:42:42 pm PDT #4801 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I think it's safe to say that any conversation that starts with "I reckon Jack Bauer's probably lost more than one lover because he insists on changing the safe word on a nightly basis" is not going to generate any commentary on events on the show worth taking seriously, be they past or future.

Actually, I could riff off it in a spoilery way, and reasonably seriously, but what's the point?


Trudy Booth - Sep 05, 2005 3:46:54 pm PDT #4802 of 10002
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

Anybody watching Dateline NBC? They just showed things in New Orleans that are alright. I was good-crying. Don't miss it.

I wonder how many families are being permanently destroyed by the "Get on the bus and shut up, you'll find out where you're going later" policy. How are people going to find each other? I doubt people too poor to have a way out of a critcally ill city have cell phones with free long distance.

Well, this IS something that can be repaired pretty quickly. Airlines have been hooking people up with flights and there are ways to donate miles. Phone companies have been passing out lots of calling cards. Once a database of who is where is up and running it should be pretty smooth to reunite famalies.


billytea - Sep 05, 2005 3:47:43 pm PDT #4803 of 10002
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

Actually, I could riff off it in a spoilery way, and reasonably seriously, but what's the point?

I don't know that I'd be capable of a serious conversation about 24. Funniest damn show on television, now Coupling's off the air.


§ ita § - Sep 05, 2005 3:51:29 pm PDT #4804 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

At least one of the themes generated some heat in discussion, IIRC. But that doesn't mean the show was being that thoughtful about them.