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le nubian - Sep 04, 2005 6:52:44 pm PDT #4660 of 10002
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

NO mayor Nagin on 60 Minutes:

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DavidS - Sep 04, 2005 6:55:58 pm PDT #4661 of 10002
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Okay, this is how they're going to respond. They're going to say that racism (and/or classism) is simply impossible. It's not a factor. La la la I can't hear you....:

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[Condi Rice's] visit came as some black leaders, including the Rev. Jesse Jackson, have complained bitterly about the slow response to the disaster, whose victims have been disproportionately black and poor. They have said racial injustice was a factor in the government's slow relief effort.

"How can that be the case? Americans don't want to see Americans suffer," Rice said. "Nobody, especially the president, would have left people unattended on the basis of race."


le nubian - Sep 04, 2005 7:03:26 pm PDT #4662 of 10002
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

...and then she swallowed her tongue.

"Nobody, especially the president, would have left people unattended on the basis of race."

So what was the basis, Condie? Socioeconomic class? Is that really better? People were unattended. So please explain WTF the reason was.


erikaj - Sep 04, 2005 7:04:34 pm PDT #4663 of 10002
Always Anti-fascist!

Poverty is ugly, Nubian. Duh. ;)


le nubian - Sep 04, 2005 7:18:05 pm PDT #4664 of 10002
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

On another board, a person watched 'Nightline' and had this comment:

Nightline is having a Sunday night edition. The mayor claims that some people tried to walk out of NO from either the Convention Center or Superdrome, but were stopped out at the county line by cops with dogs and forced to go back: the suburban police didn't want any 'looters' in their town.


dw - Sep 04, 2005 8:57:18 pm PDT #4665 of 10002
Silence means security silence means approval

Apparently, the governor of TX is asking that some of the evacuees be moved out of TX to other states because TX has become over-burdened.

They picked up nearly as many people in a week as live in Corpus Christi.

What I don't understand is how Oklahoma can only be picking up 5000 evacuees. Oregon and Washington together are taking that many in, and they're a four day's drive from NOLA.


Lee - Sep 04, 2005 9:02:05 pm PDT #4666 of 10002
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

Matt addressed that question for Arkansas here. Matt the Bruins fan "Natter .38 Special" Sep 3, 2005 10:37:04 pm PDT I imagine his points are true for Oklahoma as well.


aurelia - Sep 04, 2005 9:25:12 pm PDT #4667 of 10002
All sorrows can be borne if you put them into a story. Tell me a story.

Here's what's going on in Branson:

Entertainers announced a benefit concert. Hotel and restaurant owners offered free lodging and meals. Church pastors are creating a directory of volunteers willing to adopt families into their own homes. And the city of Branson is compiling a list of available jobs.

In an amazing moment of synergy, dog trainer Angela Walker stood up in the meeting at Presleys' Country Jubilee Theater and said she has room in her kennel to house 10 more dogs. Next, Realtor Bob Huels stood and said he'd planned to open a pet shop and has, literally, a ton of dog food he would donate to Walker. Then, someone in the center of the theater pointed to Benny Levy who arrived in Branson on Sunday from New Orleans. "He has four dogs that need shelter."

Even in a town I can't stand, sometimes people don't suck. Branson plans on having 100 jobs to offer.


aurelia - Sep 04, 2005 9:36:59 pm PDT #4668 of 10002
All sorrows can be borne if you put them into a story. Tell me a story.

It looks like community centers in KC are gearing up to be shelters. And in long term plans...

A joint plan to provide a minimum of 250 units of housings in the Kansas City area beyond transition housing or emergency shelter will be announced.


dw - Sep 04, 2005 9:41:55 pm PDT #4669 of 10002
Silence means security silence means approval

From the Houston Chronicle:

Arkansas: Gov. Mike Huckabee says Arkansas likely had 50,000 evacuees in the state as of Friday and another 20,000 could be expected.

Oklahoma: Buses carrying nearly 2,000 evacuees arrived in Oklahoma on Saturday. As many as 3,000 others are expected to follow.

Oklahoma has two medium-sized cities and a plethora of Baptist summer camps and military facilities. And yet, they're only taking 5000 people. Why?