Wash: I'm not leaving her side, Mal. Don't ask me again. Mal: I wasn't asking. I was telling.

'Out Of Gas'


Natter .38 Special  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


brenda m - Sep 03, 2005 7:33:48 am PDT #4416 of 10002
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Why waste him on a blowhard like Hastert? I've got some other nominations, though.


Trudy Booth - Sep 03, 2005 7:37:52 am PDT #4417 of 10002
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

I think racism and classism are often intertwined.

Its seems like plenty of openly racist whites don't mind RICH black people so much. (Some, of course, hate them even more).

In this situation, though, I don't think its hateful manifestations of race and classism that are causing the problems. It's distain and dismissal for "those" dirty, lazy, loud, irresponsible, people that's proved so lethal. Oh "they" will be fine, we don't need to send in busses or flatbeds to take "them" out -- "they" always manage somehow.

Of course, once you've left a few thousand people to die it's hard to distinguishl disregard from outright hatred anymore.


DavidS - Sep 03, 2005 7:38:11 am PDT #4418 of 10002
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Huh. I didn't realize the actor playing the interesting, charismatic lead in Slings and Arrows was Paul Gross from Due South.


Consuela - Sep 03, 2005 7:49:44 am PDT #4419 of 10002
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

Huh. I didn't realize the actor playing the interesting, charismatic lead in Slings and Arrows was Paul Gross from Due South.

Believe me, tens of thousands of Canadian fangirls did.


Topic!Cindy - Sep 03, 2005 7:59:36 am PDT #4420 of 10002
What is even happening?

Today's Washington Post reports that Clinton was discussing New Orleans's dilemma when someone described the speaker's comments to him. Had they been in the same place when the remarks were made, Clinton said, "I'm afraid I would have assaulted him."

Someone please put these two in a room together? Please?

Someone please lift the two term minimum.


Volans - Sep 03, 2005 8:04:50 am PDT #4421 of 10002
move out and draw fire

Huh. I didn't realize the actor playing the interesting, charismatic lead in Slings and Arrows was Paul Gross from Due South.

Argh! Now I'm even crankier I can't watch it!

Someone please lift the two term minimum.

No! We'd still have lost Clinton after the impeachment crap, and we'd get a third term of El Buche.

FWIW, I don't think it's that Bush doesn't care about them because they are black, or because they are poor. They are simply other people, and it doesn't occur to him to care about other people.


Steph L. - Sep 03, 2005 8:05:56 am PDT #4422 of 10002
I look more rad than Lutheranism

"I'm afraid I would have assaulted him."

I love this man. I miss my president.


Sean K - Sep 03, 2005 8:22:25 am PDT #4423 of 10002
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

"We ain't ate right, we ain't slept right. They don't want to give us no help. They don't want to let us in."

The decision to let these people in does not take twenty minutes if you're a fucking human being.

Clinton said, "I'm afraid I would have assaulted him."

Wow. I'm really feeling the love right now.


Allyson - Sep 03, 2005 8:55:52 am PDT #4424 of 10002
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

"I'm afraid I would have assaulted him."

Fifty bucks on Clinton.


JZ - Sep 03, 2005 9:09:39 am PDT #4425 of 10002
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.

I swear to God, for all its massive spin-machineitude, for all its bought and paid for policy-yes-manning commentators, for all its head's homespun plainspeaking President-you'd-most-like-to-have-a-beer-withness, for all that and a million more things -- I swear this is the most ethically, p.r.'ly tone-deaf administration in US history.

In the last few weeks alone, we've had Bush shrugging off a griefstricken mother with blather about needing to get on with his life, then going to fundraisers and sharing birthday cake with McCain while New Orleans is turning into Gotham, the Secretary of State going shoe-shopping and taking in Spamalot during same, and now this.

Never mind what's right or wrong or justifiable or excusable about the underlying circumstances or the larger context of any of the above, how the fuck can they be so oblivious to how incredibly shitty it all looks? I've long since ceased to expect any spasms of actual serious reflection or conscience from any of them, but even from a stricly shiny surfacey World O' Spin politics as branding/horse race/tackytastic metaphor of choice perspective, how the fuck did they all get this far being this utterly clueless? I mean... shit... fuck, dude. On top of all the other misery and indifference and callousness and large-scale awfulness, this is such a wee little thing, but, fuck. I'm without words.