Hah! The Fuddruckers site has decided to steal someone else's bandwidth now...
Mal: Then I call it a win. What's the problem? Inara: Should I start with the part where you're stranded in the middle of nowhere, or the part where you have no clothes?
'Trash'
Natter .38 Special
Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.
DXMachina - Sep 03, 2005 2:35:19 am PDT #4368 of 10002
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.
le nubian - Sep 03, 2005 2:54:32 am PDT #4369 of 10002
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."
Hard to have undeniable proof that the fucked up response is due to racism, but given what I've read about some Houston citizens' fears about NO evacuees showing up and what I've read on the WWL-tv forums...there are a whole lot of racist people out there. I think it is fair to say that situations like this bring out heroism and ugliness in great measure.
I can't imagine all of the racists were excused from decision-making (local and elsewhere) during the current crisis.
le nubian - Sep 03, 2005 2:56:23 am PDT #4370 of 10002
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."
In other news, Red Cross not allowed in New Orleans. Not before. Not NOW.
The above link is from RC. The following link is from a daily kos poster who called to get this information.
Theodosia - Sep 03, 2005 3:43:52 am PDT #4371 of 10002
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"
I haven't read the links yet, but my first reaction to that is WHAT THE FUCK!!!???1!!!
But I haven't had breakfast yet. Maybe a bagel will help control my blood pressure before my head explodes like Heather's.
brenda m - Sep 03, 2005 3:45:41 am PDT #4372 of 10002
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there
Hah! The Fuddruckers site has decided to steal someone else's bandwidth now...
BWAH!
FWIW, regarding the Salon piece on the looting v. finding captions, I've seen the picture of the black kid labelled both ways.
I don't think there's any way to separate racism, latent or overt, from some of the things we're seeing. That said, I don't think it's a primary mover so much as something coloring the edges of some of the responses/commentary. Bush doens't care about poor people. The fact is, because you're talking about a city and not a rural area, most of those people are black. As to the looters and gangs, I'm quite certain there are a lot of people out there who are finding this confirmation of every ugly thing they've ever thought about black people. But the sheer incompetence of the "relief" efforts is much broader than that.
brenda m - Sep 03, 2005 3:47:15 am PDT #4373 of 10002
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there
In other news, Red Cross not allowed in New Orleans. Not before. Not NOW.
Some of that makes a lot of sense, actually. Or would, if the feds hadn't fucked up their role in this so badly.
Anne W. - Sep 03, 2005 3:51:58 am PDT #4374 of 10002
The lost sheep grow teeth, forsake their lambs, and lie with the lions.
Some of that makes a lot of sense, actually. Or would, if the feds hadn't fucked up their role in this so badly.
If someone had explained early on that the RC's role in all of this was to provide assistance outside the disaster area so as not to hamper S&R efforts, I think it would have been a lot more palatable.
That's yet another area where things have been screwed up in all of this; communications with the media and the public and general.
le nubian - Sep 03, 2005 3:56:35 am PDT #4375 of 10002
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."
Okay, I'm laughing at the new fuddrucker's thing. How the hell did that happen?
brenda m - Sep 03, 2005 3:57:50 am PDT #4376 of 10002
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there
Did you see what was there last night? Priceless.
DXMachina - Sep 03, 2005 4:00:10 am PDT #4377 of 10002
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.
You almost have to wonder if Fuddruckers owes money to their developer.