Tracy: 'When you can't run, you crawl... and when you can't crawl, when you can't do that--' Zoe: 'You find someone to carry you.'

'The Message'


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DavidS - Sep 02, 2005 9:18:43 am PDT #4148 of 10002
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Whether it's true or not (I'm inclined to think it is, but can't prove it) the perception of the Bush administration is going to be worse than merely incompetent. It's going to look supremely uncaring.

I think the message America got in its imagery this week can be summed up as: Bush says, "Fuck you" to the poor. "Double Fuck You, if you're poor and black."

The spin will be interesting. I mean, I've already heard the right wing response which started with "they were too stupid too leave" followed by "those animals need to be shot" followed by "we're not going to subsidize rebuilding New Orleans because it's a poor investment." But I don't think that'll play after seeing people left in such desperate straits for so long.

It's just going to ring fundamentally wrong and unfair.


Aims - Sep 02, 2005 9:19:44 am PDT #4149 of 10002
Shit's all sorts of different now.

Ford is being nice. Every little bit.... [link]


le nubian - Sep 02, 2005 9:23:41 am PDT #4150 of 10002
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

My favorite by accidentally hitting a talk radio station on the way to work:

"I don't know why people are blaming the Bush Administration. Everyone knows that Louisiana political structure is corrupt."

As if Bush and friends aren't? As if LA, MS, and AL aren't poor states which don't really have high tax revenues anyway.


DavidS - Sep 02, 2005 9:24:34 am PDT #4151 of 10002
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Bush cops to it:

President George Bush has conceded the initial response to Hurricane Katrina was "not acceptable" but has said every effort is being made to save lives.


JohnSweden - Sep 02, 2005 9:24:59 am PDT #4152 of 10002
I can't even.

ita, some links in this article here: [link]

Plenty of stuff on the net, but not much of it useful and not much of it including good drawings, but some of those articles do.


le nubian - Sep 02, 2005 9:25:48 am PDT #4153 of 10002
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

12:49 P.M. - BILOXI, MS (AP): President Bush has been trying to console people who lost their homes, and everything else but their lives, to Hurricane Katrina.

Visiting Biloxi, Mississippi, Bush spoke with a tearful woman who told him, "We don't have anything." They stood alongside the ruins of homes that had been reduced to pieces amid fallen trees and other debris.

He walked through the debris with the woman and a girl, his arms around their shoulders, and told them to "hang in there."


DavidS - Sep 02, 2005 9:25:53 am PDT #4154 of 10002
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Right.

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The BBC's Matt Frei, in New Orleans, says conditions in the city's convention centre, where up to 20,000 more are stranded, are the most wretched he has seen anywhere, including crises in the Third World.

"You've got an entire nursing home evacuated five days ago - people in wheelchairs sitting there and slowly dying," he says


Glamcookie - Sep 02, 2005 9:26:03 am PDT #4155 of 10002
I know my own heart and understand my fellow man. But I am made unlike anyone I have ever met. I dare to say I am like no one in the whole world. - Anne Lister

I just talked to my mom who was extremely offended to hear me criticizing the "relief effort" (what a joke). She thinks they're doing everything they can. I just want to shake her! I need to stop discussing anything political with my parents. I never seem to learn this lesson.


Kristen - Sep 02, 2005 9:26:57 am PDT #4156 of 10002

Ellen Degeneres has set up a page where you can donate to the relief fund. Warner Bros. is matching donations through the website up to $500,000.


Susan W. - Sep 02, 2005 9:28:09 am PDT #4157 of 10002
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

Wouldn't it be great if we were living in a parliamentary system about now so the opposition could call for a vote of no confidence, like, now?