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Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Gudanov - Sep 01, 2005 9:53:35 am PDT #3648 of 10002
Coding and Sleeping

I can't help looking at the news from New Orleans and the awful reports from the BBC at the Superdome and just wonder where is the line of buses. Why isn't every schoolbus in the state there? Those people have no water, no food, and there are people dying. I know there are lots of logistics problems, but mass evacuations should have been part of all this Homeland security spending.


Kathy A - Sep 01, 2005 9:56:14 am PDT #3649 of 10002
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

Bush is incapable of it unless it is written and rehearsed several times, and even then it's sketchy. I really wanted the guy to come through, and be comforting to the nation. But then, he just seemed smug, defensive, and unserious.

They were discussing his interview with Diane Sawyer this morning on the radio, and apparently (I missed it, fortunately), he was in full inappropriate-smirk mode, which confused and concerned the radio host. "Why is he smiling? Doesn't he know how wrong it makes him look?" I wanted to call in and say that he always does this (look at his on-the-fly televised appearance--it happens every time!), but was too busy getting ready for work.


Topic!Cindy - Sep 01, 2005 9:58:26 am PDT #3650 of 10002
What is even happening?

Aren't a lot of the roads washed out, Gud? Could they get buses there? Could they get to the buses in the first place? Could they get drivers to the buses?

This is a horrible, horrible disaster. It's really easy to sit here safe and dry and decide what's messed up. There's pretty much little to no phone service, no electricity, no food, no potable water. We are modern people, used to modern, hi-tech responses, in what is now a swamp, with no hi-tech amenities. That's not just to you, but I don't know how they can begin to approach this in a systematic way, when communication is so poor.

In other flood related news, Fats Domino is missing.


dw - Sep 01, 2005 10:00:17 am PDT #3651 of 10002
Silence means security silence means approval

Just ran some errands in north Seattle. Price of gas is virtually unchanged from yesterday. $2.79/gallon.

Dear Alaska Pipeline: Thank you for your blessed petrochemicals.


JZ - Sep 01, 2005 10:01:59 am PDT #3652 of 10002
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.

Gah. The LA Times article is agonizing. I just donated as much as I could afford to the Red Cross (note to Hec: yes, I kept to the 2-figure limit, don't worry, go ahead and write the rent check), but I wish to God I could DO something.

I'm trying really hard not to be blame-y and work myself up into an All Bush's Fault, Again frothy rage, but it's just disheartening to read about the FEMA report in 2001, now 2-for-3 on predicted disasters, and the budget cuts, deploying of the now desperately needed LA Guardsmen and rough-terrain transport vehicles to Iraq, and unbelievable suffering and misery in the Superdome. I don't feel blameful so far, just incredibly sorrowful.

I do hope NOLA can be rebuilt. It seems that the most historically and culturally rich areas -- the Quarter, the Merigney, the warehouse district -- are faring rather less badly than the neighborhoods and districts further from the river and closer to the lake. I hope, hope, hope they rebuild, but I'm with Nutty in hoping they do it carefully, with a lot of forethought and a lot of time and energy looking at what's survived and why.

Back when Hec and I thought we'd actually be able to attend the NOLA F2F, I got a huge omnibus underworld history of NOLA by the author of Gangs of New York, and in addition to being just an incredibly fun read, it stunned me with the sheer number of times NOLA has already been wrecked, razed, burned down, flooded out, starved to death by political corruption, looted by bandits and pirates, decimated by one plague or another. It's remade itself again and again, and what we know as Old New Orleans is itself, except for bare a handful of buildings here and there, risen from the ashes of something that rose from the ashes of something that fell long, long ago. I'm trying not to put too much stock in the feeling this history gave me, but I keep having little vague flutterings of something like hope. It's been so badly fucked up before, so awash in death and corruption and ruin, and it's come out the other side different but recognizably itself so many damn times already. This can't be the final death, it just fucking can't.

Dammit.


Jesse - Sep 01, 2005 10:02:05 am PDT #3653 of 10002
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

OK, here's an unrelated question: I just got an email from the airline, saying I should get to the airport two hours early tomorrow. I will already have my boarding pass at that point. Is there any way just going through security will take two hours? I mean, REALLY.


Nutty - Sep 01, 2005 10:02:45 am PDT #3654 of 10002
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

Fats Domino? The pool player?

Maybe Bush Sr could use his CIA connections to raise some cash from a Middle Eastern theocracy and a war-torn Central American country. If only there were some precedent...

But Corwood, cocaine is so passé!

Does the army still have those funny pontoon bridges they used to use? I think a whole bunch of those are in order right now. I mean, aside from the whole "build some bridges" thing, why not use them as floating people-movers?

Also, I think the Newbury Street Duck Squad needs to head out and report for duty post-haste.


Gudanov - Sep 01, 2005 10:03:04 am PDT #3655 of 10002
Coding and Sleeping

This is a route into the city, just one, but there is one from news reports. I'm not sure about getting to the superdome, but there doesn't seem to be much happening there.


Lee - Sep 01, 2005 10:03:46 am PDT #3656 of 10002
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

I would believe them Jesse. There were several times at LAX when 90 minutes was cutting it way too close.


tommyrot - Sep 01, 2005 10:04:31 am PDT #3657 of 10002
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Some more budget info:

Below is a history of funding for the Lake Pontchartrain and Vincinity Hurricane Protection project. (Note: This was the levee system that broke. Due to lack of funding, major construction stopped in 2004 — the first such stoppage in 37 years.)

2004:

Army Corps request: $11 million
Bush request: $3 million
Approved by Congress: $5.5 million

2005:

Army Corps request: $22.5 million
Bush request: $3.9 million
Approved by Congress: $5.7 million

2006:

Bush request: $2.9 million

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