It's like, in the middle of all this, I'm paranoid that you'll think I don't like poetry.

Buffy ,'Empty Places'


Natter .38 Special  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


tommyrot - Sep 01, 2005 6:57:26 am PDT #3521 of 10002
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

New Orleans should be able to withstand a catagory 2 or 3 hurricane. There was a study on making NO safe from a catagory 5, but it was shelved due to Bush budget cuts.

So yeah, NO is vulnerable. Politics made it more vulnerable. Politics could make it much less vulnerable.

Excellent editorial: [link]


beth b - Sep 01, 2005 7:01:12 am PDT #3522 of 10002
oh joy! Oh Rapture ! I have a brain!

If there is land there when the waters receed, people will build. Better to help them rebuild and do it properly.


Gudanov - Sep 01, 2005 7:04:48 am PDT #3523 of 10002
Coding and Sleeping

There will be land there once the breaches are fixed and the water pumped out, there won't be naturally. I think the case to rebuild there is pretty good, but I do think it is a resonable debate.


tommyrot - Sep 01, 2005 7:05:54 am PDT #3524 of 10002
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Oh my:

US won't accept hurricane relief from Canada
Kos reports that the US is refusing Canadian aid for Katrina and the flood.

"A specialized urban search and rescue team from Vancouver will be joining the rescue efforts in Louisiana in the wake of hurricane Katrina."

Not so fast, elite Canadian rescuers! You can't just fly down here and start saving lives, not while the Department of Homeland Security's in charge. Canadian agencies are saying that foreign aid is probably not being permitted into Louisiana and Mississippi because of "mass confusion" at the U.S. federal level in the wake of the storm.

[link]


§ ita § - Sep 01, 2005 7:08:04 am PDT #3525 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I woke up an hour early this morning with a stomachache and hungry. That is now gone. During my workout, I developed a headache. I took medication, and it's now gone.

I do, however, still have the aura. I can't think straight. And I have a 9:30 uncancellable meeting that I'm running. And a client with production issues pinging me directly (I'm not in support!) that I can't brush off because support isn't actually responding, and I need to shield the technical members of the team from the business users.

Meanwhile, people who promised me time-sensitive documents haven't delivered, and I can't even get one sentence urgent answers from people who have read my e-mail.

Today is not love.


Jessica - Sep 01, 2005 7:08:29 am PDT #3526 of 10002
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Canadian agencies are saying that foreign aid is probably not being permitted into Louisiana and Mississippi because of "mass confusion" at the U.S. federal level

So what they're saying is we'd be CRAZY not to accept their help? Sounds about right to me...


Ginger - Sep 01, 2005 7:09:58 am PDT #3527 of 10002
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

Howell Raines on New Orleans and the Bush administration's response: [link]


Fred Pete - Sep 01, 2005 7:10:12 am PDT #3528 of 10002
Ann, that's a ferret.

That said, blankets have a lot of uses. People in shock need them. They can be torn and used as substitutes for bandages, slings, tourniquets, ropes, etc. They can be used to carry stuff. People need something to lie on. They can be strung up for a modicum of privacy. I can see blankets right there after water, anti-biotics, and food.

OK, that's fair. Though even better for definitions of "blankets" that include bedsheets.

If there is land there when the waters receed, people will build. Better to help them rebuild and do it properly.

Not to mention, NOLA is a major port. In practical terms, it will be necessary either to rebuild NOLA (at minimum, to get its port facilities back to where they were, plus necessary supporting infrastructure), or to find a new port/increase the capacity of existing ports to take up the slack. Unless we want the U.S. to become more self-sufficient/less dependent on imports, which would have its upside but doesn't appear likely in today's zeitgeist.


bon bon - Sep 01, 2005 7:10:18 am PDT #3529 of 10002
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

10:34 A.M. - Hoss: Stories of armed, roving gangs going around town looting every business they come across have been overexaggerated by the national media.

Again, not surprised. There have been a lot of unverifiable rumors.


§ ita § - Sep 01, 2005 7:11:36 am PDT #3530 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

It's New Orleans. You have to put it back.

On the other hand -- it's New Orleans. You can't really put it back.

Hey, will it be Newer Orleans? Newer But Not Improved Orleans?