River: They weren't cows inside. They were waiting to be, but they forgot. Now they see the sky and they remember what they are. Mal: Is it bad that what she said made perfect sense to me?

'Safe'


Natter .38 Special  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


le nubian - Aug 30, 2005 12:00:49 pm PDT #2671 of 10002
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

wow. I had never seen that before. Thank you both for your explanations.


Topic!Cindy - Aug 30, 2005 12:01:15 pm PDT #2672 of 10002
What is even happening?

You know, I am usually completely appalled by looting, but I can sort of understand it in such an utter disaster. Some people are opportunists, but some are probably just panicked. Everything's a wash. I can't see the cops bothering about it, except and unless when it's otherwise hindering emergency response.


askye - Aug 30, 2005 12:02:17 pm PDT #2673 of 10002
Thrive to spite them

There was a vendor in here today who was an utter ass about New Orleans. He said that those who stayed were fools who shouldn't be upset about what happened to them, because what did they expect?

I tried to explain that some people couldn't evacuate -- they didn't have cars or money or were sick or had children and no cars or money or whatever. His response? They could walk.

Then he launched into one of those, I'm old and we walked everywhere barefoot because no one could afford shoes or cars or even a mule.

I refrained from throttling him and yelling "Where would they walk to! What about when Katrina hit! Dumbass1"


Theodosia - Aug 30, 2005 12:03:53 pm PDT #2674 of 10002
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

Yay, Stephanie!

I've been watching Battle of the Network Reality Stars on Bravo, which is oddly fascinating actually. Richard ( Survivor ) Hatch won the Simon Says competition, which seems to be cosmically correct to me.


Cashmere - Aug 30, 2005 12:05:14 pm PDT #2675 of 10002
Now tagless for your comfort.

I don't mind so much the looting food & diapers--but jewelry? Blue jeans? These people could be helping others, or doing SOMETHING productive--like staying out of harm's way and NOT wading in toxic waste water stealing things that are not theirs--and totally useless besides.


dw - Aug 30, 2005 12:05:43 pm PDT #2676 of 10002
Silence means security silence means approval

I refrained from throttling him and yelling "Where would they walk to! What about when Katrina hit! Dumbass1"

Wait, he was a vendor, right? Heh. GREAT sales attitude.


Topic!Cindy - Aug 30, 2005 12:06:30 pm PDT #2677 of 10002
What is even happening?

I cannot understand the reasoning employed by *those who had the ability and opportunity* to leave, but didn't. But it's cold, calling anyone going through this utter nightmare--for whatever reason--a fool. And you know, once the Superdome started leaking and until the levees gave, I was starting to think those who stayed, provided they weren't in the original flood zones, were probably better off.

I tried to explain that some people couldn't evacuate -- they didn't have cars or money or were sick or had children and no cars or money or whatever. His response? They could walk.

WTF? Oh my word. You should have clocked him, askye.


Nutty - Aug 30, 2005 12:10:13 pm PDT #2678 of 10002
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

You should have clocked him with a really big map. Rolled up, for maximum whapping ability.

If a healthy person can walk 4 miles an hour (for a limited amount of time before legs falling off), and if a weather person can successfully predict the course of the storm (he/she can't), then what's the safe distance, 100 miles? That's a lot of hours of walking. 25 hours, in fact, which, maybe the warnings were more than a day before the actual impact, but probably not much more than a day.

It is literally impossible to out-walk the weather, even with advance notice.


§ ita § - Aug 30, 2005 12:12:38 pm PDT #2679 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

It is literally impossible to out-walk the weather, even with advance notice.

You lie! I saw that we-all-freeze movie!

Wait, *I* lie. I never saw it.

Carry on.


Maria - Aug 30, 2005 12:12:48 pm PDT #2680 of 10002
Not so nice is that I'm about to ruin a Friday morning for a bunch of people because of a series of unfortunate events and an upset foreign government. - shrift

I'm sick to my stomach. Partly for selfish reasons because I will never get a chance to visit NO as it was, but primarily for the massive amount of suffering those along the Gulf Coast are experiencing. It's so very difficult to wrap my head around, and heart-breaking all at once.