Fire bad. Tree pretty.

Buffy ,'Chosen'


Natter 37: Oddly Enough, We've Had This Conversation Before.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


erikaj - Aug 19, 2005 1:00:33 pm PDT #9520 of 10002
Always Anti-fascist!

I don't know...probably watching the end of Gilmore Girls season one and painting my toenails. Hoping Hec is diligent, I think.


Kat - Aug 19, 2005 1:01:18 pm PDT #9521 of 10002
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

erika, is this your first time around with GG or is it a rewatch?


msbelle - Aug 19, 2005 1:01:46 pm PDT #9522 of 10002
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

ita, the guy who is single and seems the most uncomfortable around you is the one that the "date" is with.


erikaj - Aug 19, 2005 1:03:25 pm PDT #9523 of 10002
Always Anti-fascist!

Yeah...my first time. It's cute, in a good way, not the sugar-shocky way I'd half expected.


§ ita § - Aug 19, 2005 1:04:37 pm PDT #9524 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

the guy who is single and seems the most uncomfortable around you is the one that the "date" is with.

Well, I just cancelled my Saturday night plans.

Is everyone else on a date with someone else too?

Kat -- nope. Well, I don't know about IMDB, since I don't know all their surnames.


msbelle - Aug 19, 2005 1:05:52 pm PDT #9525 of 10002
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

YOU CANNOT CANCEL!


DavidS - Aug 19, 2005 1:06:51 pm PDT #9526 of 10002
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Hec, your ex-sil never met you? How long were you and EM married (at least before you separated)?

We were together 8 1/2 years, 4 married. But EM and her sister were Not In Contact during that time and have only recently reconciled.

Remember the whole Recovered Memory thing with the accusations of child abuse that was so popular in the 80s and 90s and then later proven to be a giant stinking heap of Bad Therapeutic Practice? Well, her sister had recovered memories of sexual abuse. From her infancy.

Personally it will take a fair amount of self-control on my part to not punch ex-SiL in the face, because she caused an extraordinary amount of pain in her family. I have never seen anybody more distraught than EM on receiving that letter.

Without getting into it in detail, I'll also note that ex-SiL has a long history which makes her credibility on the subject extremely dubious.

I'm close to a number of people, including my mother, who were sexually abused as children so I don't take the issue lightly. But I still have a ton of bitterness towards the therapeutic culture which ripped apart so many families.

There's a really good TAL episode on the subject, "Ask The Experts."


§ ita § - Aug 19, 2005 1:07:07 pm PDT #9527 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

YOU CANNOT CANCEL!

I am not dating any of those guys, ever. I'm more likely to date one of the chicks, so you can assess the likeliness thereof.


Kat - Aug 19, 2005 1:09:18 pm PDT #9528 of 10002
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

Erika, that was one of the things I liked and still do about GG. Mom and Daughter care about each other, but they don't need to Donna Reed it. And they make genuine (sometimes fucking stupid) mistakes, they get angry, but they don't stop loving each other.

It doen't feel remotely real or authentic, but the emotional base seems at least genuine.


Scrappy - Aug 19, 2005 1:10:24 pm PDT #9529 of 10002
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

ita-- trimming back an overhanging tree, pulling weeds, gathering trash, climbing a tall ladder to try to pry a huge sign off the second floor, and fun things like that.

Kat--trip was GREAT!!!!! Hung with Best Friend for five days in the beautiful Berkshires in her cozy house. Ate great food and saw a play at Williamstown and visited our old college (where we met) and mostly just sat around and talked.