Mal: Then I call it a win. What's the problem? Inara: Should I start with the part where you're stranded in the middle of nowhere, or the part where you have no clothes?

'Trash'


Natter 37: Oddly Enough, We've Had This Conversation Before.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Frankenbuddha - Aug 12, 2005 11:11:45 am PDT #7778 of 10002
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Oh, trust me -- when Batman isn't being campily gay, he sounds a lot like Bale or Clooney, depending on my precise mood.

Wait, when did Clooney do a non-campily gay Batman movie?


P.M. Marc - Aug 12, 2005 11:13:02 am PDT #7779 of 10002
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Isaac Mizrahi.

D'oh!


Daisy Jane - Aug 12, 2005 11:13:16 am PDT #7780 of 10002
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."

I have a question. Doesn't this seem a little backwards? I mean shouldn't the couple who backed out be sued and not the show? It seems like the show did what it said it would do, but the couple turned out to be asshats.


DavidS - Aug 12, 2005 11:14:06 am PDT #7781 of 10002
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Don't you think it's less useful a term for conversation than attraction or desire, though?

My gut feeling is that I dislike severing physical attraction from the romantic love equation. I think it's Paul-ist or something - distrusting the body. I think it is as valid a definition of love as any other we have. I don't much like the exalted love ideal as promulgated by Medieval troubadours which has dribbled on down to our century. I think a lot of western culture's notions about love are kind of pathological. Particularly in USian culture.

There's also some suspcion that the ideas of romantic love that don't factor in sexual attraction are either acts of bad faith or rationalizations.

In sum: I suspect that romantic love may be a subset of sex with a lot of higher cortical function dancing around madly trying to distract us from this unflattering truth.


§ ita § - Aug 12, 2005 11:14:54 am PDT #7782 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

when did Clooney do a non-campily gay Batman movie?

Neither here nor there. Adam West is better suited to yell the line quoted above, and leave Clooney to be snarly and stubbly and angry and usefully sexual.

It's a lack of vision on the director's part that mismatched him so. The movie wouldn't have been so risible my way.


Topic!Cindy - Aug 12, 2005 11:17:02 am PDT #7783 of 10002
What is even happening?

To be fair, I have known a couple of people who quite literally fell in love at first sight and went on to have lengthy relationships. For me there's always been an initial infatuation perod that was mostly hormones, but I'm willing to accept that experience as something other than universal.

I think Love at First Sight is still just desire that happens to be inspired by a person that was also otherwise a good match.

And I say that as someone who could/does say "Love at first sight" about my relationship with dh. We met at a party, and that was it, for both of us. There was never any will we-won't we. We became a couple the moment we met. It's just that that time, desire wasn't drunk driving on the wrong highway. It had a route mapped out and drove responsibly.


Kat - Aug 12, 2005 11:18:21 am PDT #7784 of 10002
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

Plei, here's the dress: [link]


Steph L. - Aug 12, 2005 11:18:39 am PDT #7785 of 10002
I look more rad than Lutheranism

See, after watching many seasons of Family Guy, Adam West is now the crazy mayor of Qahog, for ever and ever.

Sister!

"When I water this plant, someone keeps STEALING the water!"

My Batman is Bale.

Honestly, the *voice* I hear is either Michael Keaton or Kevin Conroy.


Lee - Aug 12, 2005 11:19:10 am PDT #7786 of 10002
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

No such thing!

It's mostly the summery thing I would worry about. If it fits okay, I can always pair it up with a jacket for the office, or just wear it on the weekends.


Cass - Aug 12, 2005 11:19:24 am PDT #7787 of 10002
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

If this were Vegas and the board were a slot machine, I would have just won enough to pay for dinner for a group of people.
Oooh! Can I go to the theoretical dinner? With theoretical cake?