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Natter 37: Oddly Enough, We've Had This Conversation Before.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Frankenbuddha - Aug 12, 2005 10:05:38 am PDT #7756 of 10002
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

I'm not really a cross kind of person, but I might dab some melted swiss cheese on my pulse points after this discussion.

Don't forget to hang a bunch of bacon around your windows.


DavidS - Aug 12, 2005 10:18:32 am PDT #7757 of 10002
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

See, I don't think sexual orientation has anything to do with love, any more than sexual attraction has anything to do with being in love.

I think there's more than one kind of love, but Eros (sexual love) is definitely one of them. As one of my ex's put it, "If you don't have the sexual component, you're might as well just be friends."

I'll also note that I class emotions as physical experiences and so it seems like they are inextricably tied up with our physicality and sexuality. They don't just sit up in your head (or soul) separate from your...incarnatedness.


Jessica - Aug 12, 2005 10:29:49 am PDT #7758 of 10002
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

I think there's more than one kind of love, but Eros (sexual love) is definitely one of them. As one of my ex's put it, "If you don't have the sexual component, you're might as well just be friends."

I think you're reading me backwards. Pair-bonding-love clearly has a sexual component to it, but you don't need love for sexual attraction. It's possible (even easy!) to be sexually attracted to a total stranger, but I don't think anyone would call that love, or choice.


§ ita § - Aug 12, 2005 10:43:09 am PDT #7759 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

As one of my ex's put it, "If you don't have the sexual component, you're might as well just be friends."

Until one of you tries to get into a relationship with both components.


msbelle - Aug 12, 2005 10:48:18 am PDT #7760 of 10002
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

ignoring all talk.

My day has gotten much better since this morning.

carry on.


Kat - Aug 12, 2005 10:49:38 am PDT #7761 of 10002
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

msbelle, in your honor, I'm 1950sirrific today.

Also, the IM dresses from Target? Dont fit my ribcage. I think I need to go up a size or 4 which is sad. and, oddly, it's not my waist, but my RIBS.


DavidS - Aug 12, 2005 10:51:00 am PDT #7762 of 10002
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

It's possible (even easy!) to be sexually attracted to a total stranger, but I don't think anyone would call that love, or choice.

I think some people call that love. They may be confused. Or they may be ancient Greeks.


§ ita § - Aug 12, 2005 10:55:12 am PDT #7763 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I think some people call that love.

Some people may also call it vanilla pudding.

But isn't it pretty standard to distinguish in today's world between lust and love?


Topic!Cindy - Aug 12, 2005 10:56:12 am PDT #7764 of 10002
What is even happening?

I think some people call that love. They may be confused. Or they may be ancient Greeks.
Don't you think it's less useful a term for conversation than attraction or desire, though?


Matt the Bruins fan - Aug 12, 2005 10:59:16 am PDT #7765 of 10002
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

I think some people call that love. They may be confused. Or they may be ancient Greeks.

To be fair, I have known a couple of people who quite literally fell in love at first sight and went on to have lengthy relationships. For me there's always been an initial infatuation perod that was mostly hormones, but I'm willing to accept that experience as something other than universal.