Lorne: Snakes? Uh-huh. And they came out of your what? Okay. Okay, well, did they get up there themselves or is this part of a, you know, a thing? No, I'm not judging...Do we fight snakes? Angel: Only if they're giant. Or demons. Or giant demons. Are they giant demon snakes? Lorne: Well, unless this guy's 30 feet tall, I'm thinking they're of the garden variety.

'Lineage'


Natter 37: Oddly Enough, We've Had This Conversation Before.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


sarameg - Aug 09, 2005 10:20:40 am PDT #6717 of 10002

Once I'm in charge, I'm banning them outright.

Can you hurry up and get there? And ban colds too? I'm really tired of being stupid. To the point of tears, which is also the stupid talking.

My brain is on strike.


bon bon - Aug 09, 2005 10:24:37 am PDT #6718 of 10002
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

a professor would be remiss in allowing a student to use numerology to show that he predicted Communism (to use a wacky example)

Even if the student can back up their wacky argument?

I don't think the above can be backed up, no. Now, I think laxity in interpretation is okay in certain settings-- particularly if you're just trying to teach students how to analyze and write. But there is a point where that has to give way to rigor. It's not all relative, and students are being done a disservice to let them think that anything goes when it comes to interpretation.


Vortex - Aug 09, 2005 10:25:26 am PDT #6719 of 10002
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

Okay, so I just call the secretary for one of the deans. He's not in. I have a lengthy message. Not terribly complicated, just lengthy. I ask to be transferred to his voicemail. She says, I'll take a message. So, I give her the lengthy message. Then she says "would it be too much trouble for you to send that to me in an email." YES IT WOULD. If I wanted to send an email, I would have sent him one in the first damn place. What is WRONG with people?!?!?


Frankenbuddha - Aug 09, 2005 10:26:48 am PDT #6720 of 10002
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Oh, and I disagree that postmodernism in any way promulgated the author intentionality school of analysis.

In retrospect, I'm not sure what I said was clear. When I said "myth of intentionality" I meant the idea that the authors intentions are irrelevant to a reading of a text. If the author says it's about A, but the text clearly says B, then B trumps A.

My problem is when whoever is analyzing sees C and gives that perogative over B, even if there's nothing in the text to support C either.

I also think knowing A can be interesting, but mainly in a "how well did the author express his intentions" sort of way. Where they fail to achieve their intent can be as interesting (or moreso) than when they succeed.


Kat - Aug 09, 2005 10:27:49 am PDT #6721 of 10002
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

So, bon bon, are you saying as long as a theory holds up under scrutiny, with evidence, then that is a valid interpretation?

Also, went to the optometerist and had my eyes checked. I'm getting new glasses. The super cute pink frames, however did not work for me. Am sad now.


Kat - Aug 09, 2005 10:30:02 am PDT #6722 of 10002
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

one pair I liked, but in pink.


§ ita § - Aug 09, 2005 10:33:23 am PDT #6723 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I don't think the above can be backed up, no.

I thought libkitty was talking about an interpretation that could be backed up with the text -- her hesitation was in attributing intent to the author. Which is pretty much the line I'd draw if I were into crit.

So wacky sounding isn't the problem for me -- unsupportable by canon is.

Vortex, did you send it to her in e-mail?

The super cute pink frames, however did not work for me.

Why not.


Frankenbuddha - Aug 09, 2005 10:33:31 am PDT #6724 of 10002
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

ION, I'm miffed because Newbury comics didn't have the PROFIT dvds even though they are supposed to be out today. I hope they didn't get their release delayed.

It was nice to find out it wasn't quite as gross out as I feared, though.


bon bon - Aug 09, 2005 10:34:37 am PDT #6725 of 10002
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

My problem is when whoever is analyzing sees C and gives that perogative over B, even if there's nothing in the text to support C either.

This is just another way of saying an unsupported or bad analysis-- and everyone's against that.

So, bon bon, are you saying as long as a theory holds up under scrutiny, with evidence, then that is a valid interpretation?

I don't know if you're kidding or not, but no, that's not what I am suggesting.


Kat - Aug 09, 2005 10:35:25 am PDT #6726 of 10002
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

Why not.

The bridge didn't work right.

But I wouldn't mind ordering these because it looks like the bridge should be wide enough.