Jinx? If you and Dreg have been using my moisturizer again I'm going to have to rip off your scaly- hey, what's the deal with your face?

Glory ,'Potential'


Natter 37: Oddly Enough, We've Had This Conversation Before.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Jesse - Aug 08, 2005 4:41:55 pm PDT #6600 of 10002
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Holy crap, libkitty -- GO YOU!!

Good thing you didn't have to sic msbelle's tiny fists of "quit it" on them.

For reals.


Jessica - Aug 08, 2005 4:57:09 pm PDT #6601 of 10002
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Google Maps Pedometer


quester - Aug 08, 2005 4:58:04 pm PDT #6602 of 10002
Danger is my middle name, only I spell it R. u. t. h. - Tina Belcher.

ION, on The Closer the yummy tall detective is trying to herd the Chief's kittens with pillows.


Lee - Aug 08, 2005 5:26:22 pm PDT #6603 of 10002
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

I vote Afghan,

Jealous.

Sadly, I wussed out, and went to TJs and bought food instead. There is always tomorrow though.

Yay for libkitty!


Trudy Booth - Aug 08, 2005 5:29:51 pm PDT #6604 of 10002
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

The Afgan Kebab House in my neighborhood is gone too (1 or 2). Sighhh.... Now where shall I get my aushuk? (which I need to take benadryl when I eat... some spice closes my airway a bit)


§ ita § - Aug 08, 2005 5:32:01 pm PDT #6605 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I have Zankou's.

I possibly overestimated the degree to which my migraine was gone, but I think I can win this one, even if it means taking the dreaded anti-inflammatories. I'm supposed to assist tonight -- I'll have to ask if I can not teach any actual techniques, just wander and correct. Nothing impacty.

It's not like home is quiet. They're remodelling an apartment downstairs, and someone's been moving in right above me for hours now.

Still, if you had to be licensed to maintain and operate a human body, I'd have had mine confiscated by now.


Lee - Aug 08, 2005 5:33:22 pm PDT #6606 of 10002
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

I have Zankou's.

Jealous.

eta: I hope you have won, ita.


Eddie - Aug 08, 2005 5:51:24 pm PDT #6607 of 10002
Your tag here.

I suppose here's as good as anyplace to discuss it...

I'm reading Finding Serenity which is a collection of essays about Firefly. It's funny how these essayists impart every episode with their own worldview and talk like the writers intentionally wrote the episode to further (or not) feminism / insert-your-agenda-here.

It seems to me that the writer's first goal is to tell a good story within the parameters that Joss defined. If any subtext can be gleaned from the episode, then that it's purely accidental or at most the subconcious manifestation of our culture's values.

I find it hard to believe there were discussions during the shooting of the series that began, "You know, I think Jayne is manifesting too much oedipal complex which will lessen Inara's goddess-through-divine-copulation matriarchal role on an already phallic Serenity."

IJS.


Allyson - Aug 08, 2005 6:18:39 pm PDT #6608 of 10002
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

I think that's Firefly thread. But to bite, the thing is that each writer brings their personal experiences to the table. The overall thing may be, "I want to write a show about freedom."

And so, Joss drank the red koolaid, and Tim is pretty hardcore in his conservatism and those ideologies influence their story-telling in various ways. Zoe may exist due to Joss' feminist mom's influence on his life, the general feeling in Out of Gas might have a bit to do with Tim's feelings about Israel, alone in the desert. So, no, the subtext is intentional. It's part of good storytelling.


§ ita § - Aug 08, 2005 6:23:56 pm PDT #6609 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I hope you have won, ita.

I'm not so sure. Given the aggression with which I just fell asleep. And how foggy I feel on waking. God, this is stupid.

So, no, the subtext is intentional. It's part of good storytelling.

But all of it isn't, surely? I figure there's what you put in on purpose, there's what you can't help letting in, and then there's what I take out of it that may never have been placed there.