I'm just, uh, just feeling kinda... truthsome right now. And, uh... life's just too damn short for ifs and maybes.

Mal ,'Heart Of Gold'


Natter 37: Oddly Enough, We've Had This Conversation Before.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Jessica - Aug 08, 2005 1:36:16 pm PDT #6573 of 10002
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Did any other Penzeys regulars get a sample copy of their new magazine today? If so, do you like it?

I'm very much on the fence. It's got a lot of heart, but it seems to have the same goal as Cook's Illustrated, only with an amateur layout team and no test kitchen.


§ ita § - Aug 08, 2005 1:38:17 pm PDT #6574 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

it seems to have the same goal as Cook's Illustrated, only with an amateur layout team and no test kitchen

How does that work? Or...does it? My favourite bit of CI is knowing they tried this fifty times before they settled on the right answer.


Jesse - Aug 08, 2005 1:41:45 pm PDT #6575 of 10002
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Man. I'm watching the World News Tonight tribute to Peter Jennings, and it's so sad! And awesome.


Cass - Aug 08, 2005 2:02:18 pm PDT #6576 of 10002
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

Oh. My. God.

LOS ANGELES, California (AP) -- Two of the 12 jurors who voted to acquit singer Michael Jackson of child molestation and other charges said Monday they regret their decisions.
Jurors Ray Hultman and Eleanor Cook, who both have pending book deals, planned to appear Monday night on the MSNBC show "Rita Cosby: Live and Direct."
In a preview shown Monday on NBC's "Today," Cosby asked Cook if the other jurors will be angry with her.
"They can be as angry as they want to. They ought to be ashamed. They're the ones that let a pedophile go," responded Cook, 79.
They? They! They? They! "They" let him go? She did too!

Oh, I should likely add the [link] for those who want to read more.


Jessica - Aug 08, 2005 2:11:23 pm PDT #6577 of 10002
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

How does that work? Or...does it? My favourite bit of CI is knowing they tried this fifty times before they settled on the right answer.

Mine too, and I think that's why this magazine doesn't work, quite. It's similar to CI in that they've both got very personal, homey editorial styles, but One is big and glossy and the recipes don't look as good.

Honestly, if it weren't from Penzeys, I don't think I'd even have read the whole thing. I want it to be good because it's from a food company I like and respect.


Narrator - Aug 08, 2005 2:19:22 pm PDT #6578 of 10002
The evil is this way?

They? They! They? They! "They" let him go? She did too.

Easy to see how she voted "not guilty." She should just fess up -- she voted to acquit because Jackson's lawyers were better than the prosecution. But then I guess she can't get a book deal out of proving the old adage that a jury is 12 people asked to decide which party has the better lawyer.


tommyrot - Aug 08, 2005 2:21:54 pm PDT #6579 of 10002
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

IIRC there are now two ex-jurrors who are saying that Michael was guilty. They are the same two jurrors who have book deals. Coincidenc? Or did they figure that a book saying he was guilty would sell better?


Betsy HP - Aug 08, 2005 2:24:14 pm PDT #6580 of 10002
If I only had a brain...

Ya know... the question before a jury trial is not only "Did he do it?" but "Did the prosecution prove beyond a reasonable doubt that he did it?"

I have participated in a trial where the answer to (1) was "Almost certainly yes" and (2) was "No". The only appropriate verdict in such cases is Not Guilty. Otherwise you're substituting your intuition for the law of the land.


tommyrot - Aug 08, 2005 2:31:01 pm PDT #6581 of 10002
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Huh. Quantum information can be negative. So if someone gives you negative quantum information, you end up knowing less.

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Cass - Aug 08, 2005 2:48:46 pm PDT #6582 of 10002
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

Ya know... the question before a jury trial is not only "Did he do it?" but "Did the prosecution prove beyond a reasonable doubt that he did it?"
I can completely see this. What grates me, perhaps irrationally, is the "They're the ones that let a pedophile go." because they didn't act alone. She voted the same way. But then that doesn't get you the book deal.

Off to the Wild Animal Park. Wish me critters.