Lindsey: Why--why did you... Lorne: One last job. You're not part of the solution, Lindsey. You never will be. Lindsey: You kill me? A flunky?! I'm not just...Angel...kills me. You...Angel... Lorne: Good night, folks.

'Not Fade Away'


Natter 37: Oddly Enough, We've Had This Conversation Before.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Vortex - Aug 03, 2005 11:23:16 am PDT #5406 of 10002
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

I think that you have to consider the way that children don't consider the repercussions of their actions. He threw something at her, she threw something at him. If the rock had his his arm or his bicycle, no one would have thought anything of it. Her good (or lousy) aim caused it to hit his head, which was bloody and scary. I'm not saying that the girl is blameless, but charging her with a felony is a bit much.


§ ita § - Aug 03, 2005 11:23:40 am PDT #5407 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Maybe she was just holding onto the rock? Because none of her friends had one that big ... and then the water balloons made her arm twitch, and of course she was wet, so it slipped out of her hand.

Something like that.

Or maybe she'd said days ago "Next time Charlie messes with me, I'm going to get medieval on his ass."

Or maybe she didn't.


§ ita § - Aug 03, 2005 11:24:54 am PDT #5408 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I'm not saying that the girl is blameless, but charging her with a felony is a bit much.

Is there any age at which you can't get charged with a felony? I mean, legally?


Topic!Cindy - Aug 03, 2005 11:25:18 am PDT #5409 of 10002
What is even happening?

How old were these kids. Salon suddenly doesn't love me any more, because I have a firewall.


DXMachina - Aug 03, 2005 11:25:19 am PDT #5410 of 10002
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.

But what I'm wondering is if they realise(d) there was a pattern. Because that's a big deal for one instance of water balloons. Not felony-big, but big.

It's a big deal if she had pre-meditated. She probably just reached down and threw the first thing she found. (I am impressed she was able to throw smething that big that well.) Kids don't necessarily think about the consequences of the rock being worse than the consequences of a water balloon. It possible both sets of parents would've worked out suitable punishments for both kids if the police hadn't stepped in. That's what happened when something would similar happen in my neighborhood growing up.

Or, what everyone else said.


Jesse - Aug 03, 2005 11:25:55 am PDT #5411 of 10002
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

I was just visiting a day camp, where they have "color wars," and the director was talking about the camp where his kids go, where they have "rock wars." We were like, WTF?!?!?! until he explained it's actually like deacade wars with a rock soundtrack -- the teams are 60s, 70s, 80s, 90s. Har. Seriously, ROCK WARS??


Vortex - Aug 03, 2005 11:26:27 am PDT #5412 of 10002
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

Is there any age at which you can't get charged with a felony? I mean, legally?

it varies by state, but I think that it might be 10 (I seem to recall a recent case where a kid couldn't be charged with a felony because he was only 6)


Topic!Cindy - Aug 03, 2005 11:27:24 am PDT #5413 of 10002
What is even happening?

When my mother was a kid, she threw a rock at a kid who'd been tormenting her. He was walking away. She threw the rock. He turned around. Bam! Right in the eye.


Vortex - Aug 03, 2005 11:27:26 am PDT #5414 of 10002
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

She probably just reached down and threw the first thing she found. (I am impressed she was able to throw smething that big that well.) Kids don't necessarily think about the consequences of the rock being worse than the consequences of a water balloon. It possible both sets of parents would've worked out suitable punishments for both kids if the police hadn't stepped in. That what happened when something similar happened in my neighborhood growing up.

I said it first! but then, you said it better.


Wolfram - Aug 03, 2005 11:29:37 am PDT #5415 of 10002
Visilurking

I was 11 once. And I knew the consequences of throwing a 2 lb rock at somebody.

I think felony assault is a little much, but I don't like that freemaribel site either that makes it seem like it was harmless childplay. The action needs to be dealt with, whether through therapy or discipline.