You guys had a riot? On account of me? A real riot?

Jayne ,'Jaynestown'


Natter 37: Oddly Enough, We've Had This Conversation Before.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Susan W. - Aug 02, 2005 7:32:58 pm PDT #5250 of 10002
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

I've written a letter to the RWA board about the debacle Betsy described, but I haven't hit send yet. I'm writing from anger, and PMS-driven anger, at that. So, am I saying anything I'll come to regret here?

I was unable to attend the conference in Reno last week, but I have since read detailed descriptions of the RITA/GH awards ceremony. As a result, I am now glad that finances and the demands of mothering a toddler kept me home toiling away on my work-in-progress.

I won't detail all my objections to the content of the ceremony, since I know very well mine isn't the only message you're receiving on this topic. Suffice it to say that I consider playing "Don't Worry, Be Happy" over footage of Tiananmen Square to be in appallingly poor taste, showing a lack of respect for the courage and dignity of the protesters. Also, I understand that many laudatory images of Reagan and the Bushes were displayed, but that the only Clinton footage referenced the Lewinsky scandal. Since when is RWA an arm of the GOP? Where was the footage or Iran-Contra, Enron, and Halliburton? Did Karl Rove and Ken Starr join the Board while I wasn't looking?

I’m an unpublished writer in my second year of RWA membership. I joined, as I expect most people in my position do, in hopes of learning useful craft tips and industry know-how and developing contacts to help me get published and stay that way. What I didn’t sign up for was to see the cultural battles I’m all too familiar with from the 2000 and ‘04 elections re-enacted in miniature. So I’m thoroughly disgusted with the Graphical Standards issue, the survey in the July RWR that seemed designed to exclude gay and lesbian stories from the genre, and now this controversy. If it weren't for the wonderful support and advice I receive from the Beau Monde and Greater Seattle chapters, I would be revoking my membership now.

In the future, please use the awards ceremonies to celebrate romance and its authors, not to push a partisan political agenda.


Matt the Bruins fan - Aug 02, 2005 7:43:12 pm PDT #5251 of 10002
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Susan, that sounds like a polite and reasonable response to objectionable behavior to me. I see nothing inflammatory, though of course the people responsible for the debacle will probably take any criticism personally.


bon bon - Aug 02, 2005 7:50:20 pm PDT #5252 of 10002
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

What is Stella and why are beloved SportsNight characters showing up on it?

Random sketch show on Comedy Central-- it was being promoted incessantly in June.


Susan W. - Aug 02, 2005 7:51:48 pm PDT #5253 of 10002
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

Thanks, Matt. I'll go ahead and send. The funny thing is that if the buzz I'm hearing is true, even the Board didn't know what the content of the ceremony would be beforehand, and that many of them are just as appalled as the rest of us. I'm sending it to the reps from my region (basically all the West except CA), with permission to forward to the whole Board. I don't know them or their views, though they both live in conservative cities (Colorado Springs and SLC).


§ ita § - Aug 02, 2005 7:54:58 pm PDT #5254 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

What sort of cherries are the cherries that sara enjoys so much? I have Rainier cherries, and I think they don't suck as much as the Bing ones. I might even be enjoying these.

I fought today, even though I had intended resting my cricky cracky back. I'm such a sucker for peer pressure. Fighting is fun.


Lee - Aug 02, 2005 7:56:34 pm PDT #5255 of 10002
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

I think they are Rainiers, ita.


§ ita § - Aug 02, 2005 7:58:55 pm PDT #5256 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

These I like. I give them a thumbs up.


Consuela - Aug 02, 2005 8:13:26 pm PDT #5257 of 10002
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

Rainiers are yummy. I got some tonight, too, cause I realized the season is probably over soon.


Susan W. - Aug 02, 2005 8:14:45 pm PDT #5258 of 10002
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

Oh, usage experts?

I should highlight the name of a ship on an ex-Navy guy's resume, right? And is the format H.M.S. Surprise or H.M.S. Surprise?


Kat - Aug 02, 2005 8:22:42 pm PDT #5259 of 10002
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

I love Rainers. Now I want cherries.