I know people who go to a liberal church, work for liberal causes, live in liberal neighborhoods, only have liberal friends.

Boulder, Colorado can get like this. I have friends (dyke folksingers ferchrissakes) that couldn't deal with the practically intolerant level of "tolerance" there.

Pretty good things to grow up believing in from where I'm standing.

And necrophilia. Don't forget sleeping with the dead.

Pretty good things to grow up believing in from where I'm standing.

Plus lots of "Faith" puns.

Plus lots of "Faith" puns.

And GVSP as its holy scripture.

couldn't deal with the practically intolerant level of tolerance there.

My college could get like this. There were occasions I mused out loud that I'd like to stand in the middle of campus in a girly suit, leather spike heels, full metal makeup, chewing on a bloody steak. Armed. With a gas-guzzling SUV running in the background.

Sometimes it got a bit shrill.

Funny, just realized that of that list, I'm only missing armed & the vehicle. Heh.

The biggest problem I have with Intelligent Design, is how do you prove it? Merely saying that stuff is too complex isn't enough, it must able to be tested.

I believe in Intelligent Design, I just don't believe it's a science. As a matter of faith, it need not be proved by scientific method. It also shouldn't be taught in public schools. And this whole push by the ID community to teach it alongside evolution really annoys me because it opens up religion in general to ridicule. You want your kids to learn religion? Send them to a religious school, or teach them at home.

I'm sorry your work place is getting less fun, sarameg.

There was an editorial in Analog some time in the last 20 years about whether 20th century American culture should apply its ideals of tolerance towards allowing other cultures to be intolerant or whether we should insist on tolerance as a universally desirable good.

I believe in Intelligent Design, I just don't believe it's a science. As a matter of faith, it need not be proved by scientific method. It also shouldn't be taught in public schools. And this whole push by the ID community to teach it alongside evolution really annoys me because it opens up religion in general to ridicule. You want your kids to learn religion? Send them to a religious school, or teach them at home.

Wolfram is me.

They also love the Left Behind series which she just doesn't get. The bad writing bugs her more than the shoddy theology I think.

Thanks for the warning. I have a copy of Left Behind at home I've been meaning to get around to. If the writing quality is questionable, it'll be moving even farther down the to-be-read list pile.

If this was the standard, then we'd all have Ascended already. Sadly, here we are.

I think this parallels to the earlier Customer Service discussion. It's the X% (X = hopefully very small number) of I'm-right-because-and-you're-going-to-Hell types who really draw attention. (And make others occasionally trepidatious to out themselves as Christians - don't want to be associated.)