Faith: A kid. Angel's got a kid. Wesley: Connor. Faith: A teenage kid born last year. Wesley: I told you, he grew up in a hell dimension. Faith: Right. And what, Cordelia spent her last summer as… Wesley: A divine being. Faith: Uh-huh. Can I just ask--What the hell are you people doing?

'Why We Fight'


Natter 37: Oddly Enough, We've Had This Conversation Before.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Cashmere - Aug 02, 2005 9:01:34 am PDT #4955 of 10002
Now tagless for your comfort.

Can faith be taught? You can be told you need to have faith, but I've always thought faith had to be acquired by oneself.

I was taught an awful lot of religion. I actively sought faith. But alas, I never found it. I got over it.


EpicTangent - Aug 02, 2005 9:02:37 am PDT #4956 of 10002
Why isn't everyone pelting me with JOY, dammit? - Zenkitty

This makes me sad. They should feel that can talk about it. Prostelize, no. But talk about it, yes.

That is/was the point of the "Rally." To help the kids to know that they do have that right. (Teachers, Staff, NSM. I think).


Matt the Bruins fan - Aug 02, 2005 9:02:48 am PDT #4957 of 10002
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

I think at the very least belief is taught early, whether actively or by osmosis from observing parents and other relatives. Whether that really counts as faith before someone grows up enough to run into the big spiritual questions and decide for themselves is up for debate.


tommyrot - Aug 02, 2005 9:03:25 am PDT #4958 of 10002
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

That's just a letter away from being a Gnomist.

Gnomists have the clearest "vision" of anyone. That's because Gnomist = Gno + mist.


sarameg - Aug 02, 2005 9:03:31 am PDT #4959 of 10002

You know what sucks? Turning in a friend's work id and passcard for them.

Feh.


Gudanov - Aug 02, 2005 9:04:26 am PDT #4960 of 10002
Coding and Sleeping

Sorry sarameg, that sounds pretty awful.


EpicTangent - Aug 02, 2005 9:04:43 am PDT #4961 of 10002
Why isn't everyone pelting me with JOY, dammit? - Zenkitty

hush-up-and-go-awayist

All hail JZ, Voice of the Prophet!


§ ita § - Aug 02, 2005 9:04:53 am PDT #4962 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Will you be keeping in touch with him, sara?


askye - Aug 02, 2005 9:06:00 am PDT #4963 of 10002
Thrive to spite them

Grandma E is a literalist. She's not ignorant or unable to function in soceity. She's constantly reading non fiction books --- histories, commentaries, etc -- to learn not just about the Bible, but Biblical times, how people lived, what the politics were, what the societies were like, etc. If you can understand that, then it's easier to understand why there were certain laws, why people from the Bible acted the way they did, etc.

She says that her joy and understanding of God and her relationship with God grows and changes the older she gets and the more she learns. There are things that she can't answer, questions can't understand all of God's actions or his plans because God is so much more and so much greater. But He's in charge and so she has faith and trusts in him.


EpicTangent - Aug 02, 2005 9:06:51 am PDT #4964 of 10002
Why isn't everyone pelting me with JOY, dammit? - Zenkitty

I love Grandma E.