Wash: I didn't think you were one for rituals and such. Mal: I'm not, but it'll keep the others busy for a while. No reason to concern them with what's to be done.

'Bushwhacked'


Natter 37: Oddly Enough, We've Had This Conversation Before.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Jars - Jul 27, 2005 12:31:44 pm PDT #3443 of 10002

I had growing pains in my legs when I was a kid. Bones growing too fast for the muscle, or something, I think. I couldn't walk properly for a couple of months and had to give up gymnastics. I don't really remember the pain, but I still sort of measure everything painful against it to this day. The inner-ear abcess while flying from Malaysia to Ireland wasn't fun either.

I've never had tooth unpleasantness, but I'm guessing I don't want to. A lot.


§ ita § - Jul 27, 2005 12:34:12 pm PDT #3444 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Randomly (via IMDB):

Despite the enactment of the Americans with Disabilities Act 15 years ago, actors with disabilities continue to be routinely passed over for employment by TV and film producers, according to a study released Tuesday by the Screen Actors Guild. At a news conference Robert David Hall, chairman of SAG's National Performers with Disabilities Committee, said that the study, titled "The Employment of Performers With Disabilities in the Entertainment Industry," represented "the first real documentation of what performers with disabilities and their advocates have long suspected: We have far to go to achieve true equality of opportunity. ... The images we see and the stories we tell say a lot about our society. We are part of the story." He pointed out that while persons with a physical or mental disability comprise 20 percent of the population, less than 2 percent of TV show characters exhibit a disability and only one-half of 1 percent are hired in speaking roles. Hall himself, who plays the coroner on CBS's CSI: Crime Scene Investigation and who lost his legs following a car accident, said that he was "keenly aware" that he is an exception.

I had no idea the number was as high as 20%, but I'm not sure of the boundaries of the definition, and I do wonder what the discrepancy is between the number of characters exhibiting a disability and the number of actors with disabilities playing them.


Vortex - Jul 27, 2005 12:39:01 pm PDT #3445 of 10002
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

I have never noticed the Elf hierarchy. Is he subordinate to the white elves, or are they subordinate to him?

well, I dont' know. He seems to be in a leadership position (i.e. the foreman), but why is he the Fudge Shoppe Cookie foreman. Why can't he be the Vienna Fingers foreman or something.


bon bon - Jul 27, 2005 12:42:06 pm PDT #3446 of 10002
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

I had no idea the number was as high as 20%, but I'm not sure of the boundaries of the definition, and I do wonder what the discrepancy is between the number of characters exhibiting a disability and the number of actors with disabilities playing them.

I would suspect a large portion of that is depression, if we're including mental disability. I'd submit there are lots of depressed actors, and some depressed characters, although god help us if it ever reaches double digits. I've seen me depressed, I would hate to see it on tv.


Scrappy - Jul 27, 2005 12:44:29 pm PDT #3447 of 10002
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

A guy I work with who is a dwarf and also has a condition which has left him in a wheelchair is an officer on that committee. He is a director and not an actor, but he says the problem is that they are far more likely to cast an able-bodied person as someone with a disability than a disabled actor in a role which doesn't call for full mobility. No reason the receptionist who makes with flirtatious banter couldn't be in a wheelchair, or whatever. He also said it's a lot better now than it ever was, but still not good.


tommyrot - Jul 27, 2005 12:45:36 pm PDT #3448 of 10002
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Most painful was having my sinus cavity packed due to a burst artery inside. I only know that was most painful because the little card that describes the memory in my mind says, "For your protection, the details of this experience have been wiped. There were drugs and you nearly kicked a nurse in the gut to stop her doing what she was doing, and it was unpleasant. Leave it there."

Oh, that was my most painful experience ever. I was about to have TMJ surgery, so right before they knocked me out they had to put a tube through my nose into my lungs (in case my face swelled up so much that I'd otherwise be unable to breath). So the doctor took a long cotton swab that was dipped in liquid cocaine and shoved it up my nose. Damn, did that hurt - I was holding onto the gurney with both hands and breathing in little, short breaths.

I was so mad when they knocked me out moments later, because I figured they could have knocked me out first before shoving crap up my nose.


DXMachina - Jul 27, 2005 12:45:55 pm PDT #3449 of 10002
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.

He seems to be in a leadership position (i.e. the foreman), but why is he the Fudge Shoppe Cookie foreman. Why can't he be the Vienna Fingers foreman or something.

I'm thinking the Fudge Shoppe is more prestigious than Vienna Fingers. Fudge Shoppe is the Cadillac of the Keebler line.


Topic!Cindy - Jul 27, 2005 12:46:24 pm PDT #3450 of 10002
What is even happening?

well, I dont' know. He seems to be in a leadership position (i.e. the foreman), but why is he the Fudge Shoppe Cookie foreman. Why can't he be the Vienna Fingers foreman or something.

Oh! I'm glad you bolded Fudge, because I didn't realize that was the part getting on your nerves. Hmmm. I don't know. I think they should try to buy us off with cookies, that's what I think.


Susan W. - Jul 27, 2005 12:51:47 pm PDT #3451 of 10002
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

I'd rather give birth than have a stomach flu or food poisoning, although I have quick deliveries.

I'd rather give birth than have the kind of back spasms I had back in May again, and I didn't have a quick delivery, nor an especially easy recovery. Nothing about childbirth and its aftermath made me weep with pain. Exhaustion, yes, but not pain. So the back spasms win.


Wolfram - Jul 27, 2005 12:52:16 pm PDT #3452 of 10002
Visilurking

It think it would be worse if they made the Fudge elf gay.