Like any of that's enough to fight the Dark Master. Bator.

Xander ,'Lessons'


Natter 37: Oddly Enough, We've Had This Conversation Before.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


§ ita § - Jul 27, 2005 8:59:38 am PDT #3284 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Wait, they were a fashion item? Like, ever?

In vogue, as in popular, not in vogue as in in Vogue.


Nutty - Jul 27, 2005 8:59:49 am PDT #3285 of 10002
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

Fascinating discussion of taxes. I'm not too gentle in my mind on people who get huge assets dropped in their laps, because assets are assets. If you own a wingding worth $10, even if you never, ever, ever intend to sell it, it's still $10 sitting around your house disguised as a wingding. The law is not designed to let you keep your grandma's beloved wingding no matter how valuable, because the law has no idea whether you actually love it or would sell it for crack at the first opportunity.

Also, I am all for rich people giving money to the poor, via government or another method. Call it The Other Trickle-Down Theory, the one that is not actually stone cold banditry.


§ ita § - Jul 27, 2005 9:00:39 am PDT #3286 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

The law is not designed to let you keep your grandma's beloved wingding no matter how valuable, because the law has no idea whether you actually love it or would sell it for crack at the first opportunity.

Then why not tax it when you sell it for crack? Then you can be sure.


Nutty - Jul 27, 2005 9:03:11 am PDT #3287 of 10002
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

Sadly, crack transactions are not taxed, due to their not happening in licensed establishments of business. Although watching crack-fiends try to calculate sales tax in their heads might be entertaining.

Next up: fair use laws for whoring.


bon bon - Jul 27, 2005 9:03:19 am PDT #3288 of 10002
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

So, bon, how do the tax laws apply to Teppy's primal fear of inheriting her father's debt?

Don't think they apply, and then it gets a little out of stuff I know. But AFAIK, what Cindy is saying is right: creditors get a crack at the decedent's assets before you do. If the deceased has no assets, I don't think you become liable for the debt.

Does dowry count as a normal gift for taxation purposes?

There are some exemptions for gifts from one spouse to another, but otherwise, yeah.


§ ita § - Jul 27, 2005 9:05:01 am PDT #3289 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Sadly, crack transactions are not taxed, due to their not happening in licensed establishments of business

Ah -- bartering for crack. I couldn't see what it mattered what you spent the money on, but I get it now.


Fred Pete - Jul 27, 2005 9:10:28 am PDT #3290 of 10002
Ann, that's a ferret.

If the tax is repealed, then where does that money come from? Raise the income tax?, Cut Medicaid?, Just add it to the debt?

bon bon, I think this is a very important question as a policy matter. The federal budget is at record deficit levels. How can Congress justify reducing income? Is the "fiscal responsibility" party just going to make the deficit keep going up and up?


Nutty - Jul 27, 2005 9:13:22 am PDT #3291 of 10002
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

I couldn't see what it mattered what you spent the money on, but I get it now.

Well, no. What you spend the money on does not matter -- crack or crackle finish on your new living room. What matters is whether you or any of your heirs might ever consider selling grandma's beloved wingding. If the wingding has value, you or your heirs might sell it, and become richer thereby. I think the government is taxing inheritors because the wingding IS money, just not in a format that is easily transacted.

And, really, when does money ever change hands without the government taking a cut? Besides envelopes at Christmas and corrupt accountants, I mean.


tommyrot - Jul 27, 2005 9:15:32 am PDT #3292 of 10002
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

And, really, when does money ever change hands without the government taking a cut?

Some places don't have sales tax, right?


§ ita § - Jul 27, 2005 9:15:46 am PDT #3293 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

What matters is whether you or any of your heirs might ever consider selling grandma's beloved wingding.

Are you suggesting taxing upon receipt as a way to prevent black market profit? I responded to your post thinking that crack was hyperbole, but it's not, is it?